On 05/15/2017 04:54 PM, Martin Jambor wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 01:25:18PM -0400, Trevor Saunders wrote:
>> On Wed, Sep 16, 2015 at 10:36:47AM -0600, Jeff Law wrote:
>>>
> 
> ...
> 
>>> I'd rather just move to 1.5 and get on with things.  If some systems don't
>>> have a new enough version, I'm comfortable telling developers on those
>>> platforms that they need to update.  It's not like every *user* needs
>>> dejagnu, it's just for the testing side of things.
>>
>> yeah, it seems like a poor idea to slow down progress we make for all
>> users to benefit a few people who want to develope on rather old
>> machines.
>>

The relying on system dejagnu on old distributions has been a sure
recipe for people avoiding fixing / improving dejagnu.  I mean,
why bother, if your fix will only be generally available in 10 years
when older distros are finally phased out?

> Could we at least make sure that machines in the FSF compile farm have
> a new enough dejagnu before move to requiring at least 1.5?
> 
> I understand that may be a tall order, given that some machines
> (e.g. gcc117) do not have dejagnu at all and this was reported some
> time ago :-(
> 

Maybe download_prerequisites could be taught to handle downloading
and setting up dejagnu [1], making it mostly a non-issue?

[1] Last time I needed to do it, it was mostly plain old
configure/make/make install IIRC, assuming new-enough tcl/expect.
Building a newer tcl/expect would be a bit more work of course.

Thanks,
Pedro Alves

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