On 15 Feb 2016 16:18, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: > On 15/02/16 16:03, H.J. Lu wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 7:37 AM, Alexandre Oliva <aol...@redhat.com> wrote: > >> On Feb 12, 2016, Pedro Alves <pal...@redhat.com> wrote: > >>>> wonderful. I am not a big fan of google groups mailinglists, they seem > >>>> to make it hard to subscribe and don't have easy to access archives. > >>>> Having a local gnu-gabi group on sourceware.org would be better IMHO. > >> > >>> +1 > >> > >> +1 > >> > >> Since it's GNU tools we're talking about, we'd better use a medium that > >> we've all already agreed to use, than one that a number of us objects > >> to. I, for one, have closed my Google account several Valentine's Days > >> ago, for privacy reasons, and this makes the archives of lists hidden > >> there unusable for me. > > > > Please don't spread false information. Anyone can subscribe Linux-ABI > > group and its archive is to open to everyone. You don't need a gmail > > account > > for any of those. There are quite a few non-gmail users. You don't have > > to take my word for it. I can add your email to Linux-ABI group and you > > can check it out yourself :-). > > you as a group admin can do that, others cannot join > without creating a account at google (which requires > the acceptance of the google tos etc).
that is annoying > you also have censorship rights over others. umm, every mailing list has that. Google Groups is no different. > even if you add users to the list they cannot access > the archive through standard http or https, you're conflating things here. of course access is through "standard http or https" -- that's the transport protocol that everyone has to implement according to the standard in order to work. Goole is not different here. > they need to allow google to execute javascript code on their > machine. complaining that the web interface executes JS is a bit luddite-ish. > (so wget does not work). every message has a link to the raw message you can use to fetch the mail directly. perm link: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/x32-abi/IHmCJvigOEg/TyjZJYZ63DMJ which has a link to the raw message: https://groups.google.com/forum/message/raw?msg=x32-abi/IHmCJvigOEg/TyjZJYZ63DMJ it's actually nicer than mailmain (i.e. sourceware) as it doesn't do all the trivial content mangling (s/@/ at/g). it's not like e-mail scrapers today can't reverse that easily. > and the url through which you visit a post is not a > reliable permanent link so linking to posts is hard. every post has a "link" option to get a perm link. needing the location in the URL bar be the perm link is a weak (dumb imo) requirement. -mike
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