2010/8/25 Basile Starynkevitch <bas...@starynkevitch.net>:
> On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 22:41 +0300, Laurynas Biveinis wrote:
>>
>> > Besides, testing any gengtype change is very expensive for us (&
>> > probably for others), because we have to regenerate all the gt*.[ch]
>> > generated files & rebuild the entire compiler at each test. Even with
>> > the help of ccache, that takes a lot of time.
>
> Perhaps my words are not very exact. By testing I meant "debugging".
> Currently, we remove every gt* files after every our changes in
> gengtype.c and then we make the full compiler, and that does take a lot
> of time. I probably am confusing testing & debugging; from my point of
> view of gengtype hacker, it is the same!

I still don't see why you have to make a full compiler and why make
s-gtype is not enough for you. There is no dependency of gengtype on
libbackend.a or anything like that.

>> TYPE_LANG_STRUCT is for structs that have a definition per frontend,
>> struct lang_decl and lang_type are the canonical examples, which are
>> defined by all the rontends and handled naively would result in
>> duplicate name clashes.
>
> Thanks for the nice explanation. I would imagine it could even belong to
> gty.texi...

IIRC gty.texi does not have a chapter on gengtype internals. IMHO the
best place is in the source next to the definition (have no idea why I
didn't do it myself couple of months ago).

>> > Does the set of configure-d languages matter to gengtype?
>> > If yes, how?
>>
>> I guess no.
>
> Doesn't that contradict your explanation of GTFILES & @all_gtfiles@ a
> few paragraphs above or I very probably misunderstood you. If, as I
> believe, GTFILES is based upon @all_gtfiles@ which is autoconf-igured,
> then I would imagine the gtyp-input.list should also depend on it. But I
> find [ada] tag & ada related files there even when I did not mention ada
> to configure (but only C, C++, LTO).
>
> Or are you suggesting that @all_gtfiles@ is not really autoconf-igured
> and always the same? Probably yes, but then why use it?

It does not contradict, because, as I said, @all_gtfiles@ pulls in all
the frontends unconditionally no matter what you specified with
--enable-languages. Now, reading the configure.ac source may suggest
that it could have been intended to make @all_gtfiles@ honor
--enable-languages, but I can' really tell from cursory reading. Maybe
it did once, and then broke and nobody noticed.

-- 
Laurynas

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