On Sat, Mar 21, 2009 at 8:46 PM, Mark Mitchell <m...@codesourcery.com> wrote: > David Edelsohn wrote: > >> I do not believe that Mark is asserting that he and the other release >> managers have to follow the requests of the FSF. The question is not >> what the GCC community or the release managers *can* do, the question >> is what we *should* do. Ignoring a direct, polite request from the >> FSF has implications -- ramifications; it is a form of communication. > > Correct. It's as if I were a member of the President's cabinet and > disagreed with the administration's policy. I'd try to persuade the > President s/he was wrong, and if I felt strongly enough I'd resign, but > I'd not act in defiance of that policy while remaining in the cabinet.
Except we aren't supposed to have a president with you as the cabinet, you are supposed to be preventing any individual group or organization form getting control over the project. Otherwise, can you please change the first sentence on http://gcc.gnu.org/steering.html which states: "The steering committee was founded in 1998 with the intent of preventing any particular individual, group or organization from getting control over the project. Its primary purpose is to make major decisions in the best interests of the GCC project and to ensure that the project adheres to its fundamental principles found in the project's mission statement. [see the original announcement below]." 1. The FSF, as an organization, clearly now has control over the project. You even liken them to the administration of which you are just a subordinate. You also believe you must act in accordance with their policy or resign from the group supposed to be making the major decisions in the best interests of the GCC project. If this is not giving defacto control to an organization over the GCC project, i don't know what is. 2. Everyone who has spoken up so far does not believe these decisions are in the best interest of the GCC project. (FWIW, I'm not suggesting you all resign, I am suggesting maybe letting the FSF has as much control over GCC as it has and continues to is not the path GCC should take, as it has done *nothing* but cause us misery for years now) --Dan