On Wed, Jun 17, 2026 at 12:21 PM Ciprian Arbone <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 at 11:50, Richard Biener <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 17, 2026 at 10:48 AM Ciprian Arbone <[email protected]> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Wed, 17 Jun 2026 at 11:36, Richard Biener <[email protected]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2026 at 10:21 AM Ciprian Arbone 
> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 16 Jun 2026 at 16:48, Richard Biener 
> > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Fri, Jun 12, 2026 at 3:31 PM Ciprian Arbone via Gcc 
> > > > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We recently enabled LDMIA/STMIA instructions for Thumb-1 
> > > > > > > (Cortex-M0+) by
> > > > > > > modifying ARM_AUTOINC_VALID_FOR_MODE_P to allow auto-increment 
> > > > > > > addressing
> > > > > > > for THUMB1 targets. However, we've discovered that IVOPTs 
> > > > > > > generates
> > > > > > > suboptimal code for simple loops due to incorrect addressing mode 
> > > > > > > selection.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Consider this test case:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > void test(int *a, int *b, int size)
> > > > > > > {
> > > > > > >     for (int i = 0; i < size; i++)
> > > > > > >     {
> > > > > > >         a[i] = b[i] * a[i];
> > > > > > >     }
> > > > > > > }
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > GCC currently generates:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     ldmia   r0!, {r4}
> > > > > > >     ldmia   r1!, {r6}
> > > > > > >     subs    r5, r0, #4
> > > > > > >     ...
> > > > > > >     str     r4, [r5, #0]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The issue occurs because IVOPTs selects a candidate with the 
> > > > > > > lowest cost that
> > > > > > > has the following structure:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Candidate xxx:
> > > > > > >   Incr POS: after use 0
> > > > > > >   IV struct:
> > > > > > >     Type:       unsigned int
> > > > > > >     Base:       (unsigned int) a_13(D)
> > > > > > >     Step:       4
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This results in the following loop structure:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > loop-preheader:
> > > > > > >     r0 = a
> > > > > > >     jump loop-exiting
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > loop-header:
> > > > > > >     load-from  [r0]
> > > > > > >     increment  r0
> > > > > > >     store-to   [r0, #-4]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > loop-exiting:
> > > > > > >     jump loop-header
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > **Issue 1:** IVOPTs recognizes both patterns as valid 
> > > > > > > post-increment with
> > > > > > > offset zero:
> > > > > > >   - "load-from [r0]; increment r0" → recognized as post-inc from 
> > > > > > > offset 0
> > > > > > >   - "increment r0; store-to [r0, #-4]" → also recognized as 
> > > > > > > post-inc from
> > > > > > >     offset 0
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The code in tree-ssa-loop-ivopts.cc:get_address_cost() applies 
> > > > > > > the adjustment:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >     if (stmt_after_increment (data->current_loop, cand, 
> > > > > > > use->stmt))
> > > > > > >         ainc_offset += ainc_step;
> > > > > > >     cost = get_address_cost_ainc (ainc_step, ainc_offset,
> > > > > > >                                   addr_mode, mem_mode, as, speed);
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > However, Thumb-1 does not support negative immediate offsets in 
> > > > > > > addressing
> > > > > > > modes. The pattern "increment r0; store-to [r0, #-4]" can never 
> > > > > > > be realized
> > > > > > > as a post-increment store on Thumb-1, yet IVOPTs assigns it a low 
> > > > > > > cost.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > **Question 1:** Should get_address_cost() verify that an 
> > > > > > > addressing mode is
> > > > > > > actually valid on the target before assigning auto-increment 
> > > > > > > cost? Currently,
> > > > > > > it appears to assume validity without checking target constraints.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It should end up calling the legitimize_address_p target hook to 
> > > > > > verify
> > > > > > validity.
> > > > >
> > > > > The legitimize_address_p target hook is invoked, but relatively
> > > > > late—during the GIMPLE-to-RTL conversion.
> > > > > At that point, after ivopts, the GIMPLE already contains code that may
> > > > > not be optimal.
> > > >
> > > > IVOPTs checks valid_mem_ref_p which calls memory_address_addr_space_p
> > > > with artificially generated RTL and that calls legitimate_address_p.
> > >
> > > Yes, it does: but only if get_address_cost_ainc returns infinite_cost,
> > > meaning that cand and use
> > > cannot be paired to form an auto-modifying address expression.
> >
> > I don't quite understand, but ainc forming does not check validity that's
> > what needs to be fixed.
> >
>
> My concern is specifically about the cost model in ivopts. In a loop like:
>
> for (;;)
> a[i] = a[i] * <expr>;
>
> ivopts may consider alternatives such as:
>
> // r0 = a
> load-from [r0, #0]
> add r0, #4
> store-to [r0, #-4]
>
> and:
>
> // r0 = a
> load-from [r0, #0]
> store-to [r0, #0]
> add r0, #4
>
> These appear to be treated as having equal cost. However, in the first
> case, performing the increment after the load can lead to an invalid
> addressing mode for the store ([r0, #-4]), which then has to be fixed
> up later by splitting it into multiple instructions. In practice, this
> makes the first alternative more expensive.

As said, IVOPTs is supposed to see that it's using a -4 constant offset
and reject that if this is not valid.  If that doesn't work for whatever
reason then that's a bug.

Richard.

>
> > >
> > >
> > > > Richard.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > _24 = (void *) ivtmp.15_20;
> > > > > _6 = MEM[(int *)_24];
> > > > > ivtmp.15_21 = ivtmp.15_20 + 4;
> > > > >
> > > > > . . .
> > > > >
> > > > > _25 = (void *) ivtmp.15_21;
> > > > > MEM[(int *)_25 + 4294967292 * 1] = _7; <------
> > > > >
> > > > > Would it make sense to check whether the addressing mode is valid at 
> > > > > this point
> > > > > (https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/blob/master/gcc/tree-ssa-loop-ivopts.cc#L4732),
> > > > > similar to the validation performed later
> > > > > (https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/blob/master/gcc/tree-ssa-loop-ivopts.cc#L4753)?
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > **Issue 2:** IVOPTs also assigns low cost to another candidate:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Candidate yyy:
> > > > > > >   Incr POS: before exit test
> > > > > > >   IV struct:
> > > > > > >     Type:       unsigned int
> > > > > > >     Base:       (unsigned int) a_13(D)
> > > > > > >     Step:       4
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This produces:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > loop-preheader:
> > > > > > >     r0 = &a[0]
> > > > > > >     jump loop-exiting
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > loop-header:
> > > > > > >     load-from  [r0, #-4]
> > > > > > >     store-to   [r0]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > loop-exiting:
> > > > > > >     increment  r0
> > > > > > >     jump loop-header
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > IVOPTs considers that the increment in the loop-exiting block can 
> > > > > > > be paired
> > > > > > > with "load-from [r0, #-4]" in the loop-header block, despite them 
> > > > > > > being in
> > > > > > > different basic blocks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > **Question 2:** Should get_address_cost() verify that the 
> > > > > > > candidate increment
> > > > > > > and use->stmt are in the same basic block when cand->pos == 
> > > > > > > IP_NORMAL?
> > > > > > > Cross-block pairing seems problematic for post-increment 
> > > > > > > addressing mode
> > > > > > > costing.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > If the pairing is wrong it should be fixed, where's that pairing 
> > > > > > done?
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The pairing takes place at this point
> > > > > (https://github.com/gcc-mirror/gcc/blob/master/gcc/tree-ssa-loop-ivopts.cc#L4739),
> > > > > where the candidate (the `increment r0` statement from the
> > > > > loop‑exiting basic block) is combined with the use
> > > > > (the `load-from [r0, #-4]` statement from the loop‑header basic
> > > > > block), resulting in can_autoinc being set to true.
> > > > >
> > > > > loop-header:
> > > > >     load-from [r0, #-4]
> > > > >     store-to [r0]
> > > > >
> > > > > loop-exiting:
> > > > >     increment r0
> > > > >     bcc loop-header
> > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Both issues suggest that IVOPTs may need additional validation to 
> > > > > > > ensure:
> > > > > > > 1. The selected addressing mode is actually supported by the 
> > > > > > > target
> > > > > > > 2. The increment and memory operation are properly co-located for 
> > > > > > > IP_NORMAL
> > > > > > >    candidates
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > > Ciprian Arbone

Reply via email to