On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 12:05 PM Andrew Pinski <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2026, 7:43 AM David Edelsohn <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 7:35 AM Mark Wielaard <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> On Fri, 2026-06-12 at 12:34 -0700, Andrew Pinski via Gcc wrote: >>> > On Fri, Jun 12, 2026 at 12:25 PM David Edelsohn via Gcc < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> > > please respond to this email thread with a short description of >>> > > how you would utilize the access and the potential impact on the GNU >>> > > Toolchain. The program's slots are limited and Carlos O'Donell and >>> > > I plan to review the proposals. >>> > > [...] >>> > > P.S. This is not an endorsement of Anthropic, Claude or LLMs. We >>> dislike >>> > > having to say it, but please don’t use this thread as a platform to >>> express >>> > > your personal opinions about the companies or about AI’s impact on >>> the >>> > > world. >>> > >>> > Can we please keep this kind of emails out of the development mailing >>> > lists? >>> >>> Yes. Even if you say it isn't an endorsement of (proprietary, saas) >>> LLMs, it certainly reads like one. Please stop this. >>> >> >> Emails to this list are permitted so long as they are on topic, and meet >> the community code of conduct. >> > > Except the original email does not meet community ethics of the list. > > > >> Asking politely to stay on topic is appropriate. >> >> Telling the community what it should or should not do or what is >> permitted to be discussed is not appropriate. You and Andrew are not the >> arbiters of speech on the GCC, Binutils, GLIBC, and GDB mailing lists. >> Please stop. This intimidation and silencing tactic is not appropriate. >> > > > Saying ethics of such company and its software usage is offtopic for this > thread does not make it offtopic for the community. Your ask in itself is > intimidating to many and was very inappropriate. > If this kind of offer came from anyone else, many of us still think the > offer is offtopic for the community lists. And Saying your email is on > topic means there will/can be a flood gate of similar offers. I am not sure > that was your intention. > > Also in the past there was some asking if posting jobs were OK, and the > community at the time decided no. This kind of offer should be in the same > category as that. > Andrew, We have conversations on these mailing lists about the use of other proprietary tools that help with the development and debugging of Free Software and the GNU Toolchain. We have conversations about SPEC CPU, Plum Hall, Perennial, Nullstone, etc. We have conversations about building and debugging the GNU Toolchain with proprietary compilers, assemblers, linkers, debuggers, C Libraries, Math libraries, SIMD libraries, BLAS libraries, etc. We have conversations about the GNU Toolchain targeting proprietary assemblers, linkers, libraries, operating systems, and computer architectures. While we prefer GNU/Linux and Free Software applications, we do not hijack every technical discussion for a political conversation about the ethics of those companies and their products. The other conversations don't descend into debates about ethics and this thread should not. Members of the GNU Toolchain community are free to ignore tools, products and opportunities that they don't wish to utilize, while maintaining support for a wide variety of platforms as targeted by the GNU Toolchain. The GNU Project has other mailing lists for conversations about ethics and politics. Please use those mailing lists for those topics. We are not going to turn the GNU Toolchain community and its communication forums into purity tests. Thanks, David > > Thanks > Andrea > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks, David >> >> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Mark >>> >>
