> Yeah...and I also don't like the magic "ceil(AVL / 2) ≤ vl ≤ VLMAX if
> AVL < (2 * VLMAX)" rule...

+1, spec has some description about this but I am not sure if I really get the 
point.

From Spec:

"For  example,  this  permits  an  implementation  to  set  vl  =  ceil(AVL  /  
2)  for  VLMAX  <  AVL  <  2*VLMAX  in  order  to  evenly
distribute work over the last two iterations of a stripmine loop. Requirement 2 
ensures that the  rst stripmine iteration of reduction
loops uses the largest vector length of all iterations, even in the case of AVL 
< 2*VLMAX. This allows software to avoid needing to
explicitly  calculate  a  running  maximum  of  vector  lengths  observed  
during  a  stripmined  loop.  Requirement  2  also  allows  an
implementation to set vl to VLMAX for VLMAX < AVL < 2*VLMAX"

Pan

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Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] RISC-V: Fix wrong LMUL when only implict zve32f.

Hi Robin:

Pushed to trunk, thanks,

On Mon, Mar 31, 2025 at 11:23 PM Robin Dapp <rdapp....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> LGTM (even though I still don't like the spec :D).

Yeah...and I also don't like the magic "ceil(AVL / 2) ≤ vl ≤ VLMAX if
AVL < (2 * VLMAX)" rule...


> We still have an implicit assumption in riscv-vsetvl.cc that might modify 
> LMUL:

Thanks for reminding me, will take a look to see if that will cause problems :)

>
> In prev_ratio_valid_for_next_sew_p and next_ratio_valid_for_prev_sew_p we 
> check
> whether the ratio of two LMULs is <= 8.  ISTR that with recent changes we only
> re-use an existing ratio and don't compute a new one but it might be worth a
> second look.  A while ago we certainly did change LMUL even to values that
> weren't initially enabled.
>
> --
> Regards
>  Robin
>

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