On 2022-07-12 7:36 p.m., Pedro Alves wrote:
> On 2022-07-12 7:22 p.m., Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 12 Jul 2022, 17:40 Pedro Alves, <pe...@palves.net 
>> <mailto:pe...@palves.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     On 2022-07-12 4:14 p.m., Jonathan Wakely wrote:
>>
>>     >>  So once GCC requires C++14, why would you want to preserve
>>     >> once-backported symbols in a namespace other than std, when you no 
>> longer have a reason to?
>>     >> It will just be another unnecessary thing that newcomers at that 
>> future time will have
>>     >> to learn.
>>     >
>>     > I also don't see a problem with importing std::make_unique into
>>     > namespace gcc for local use alongside other things in namespace gcc. I
>>     > do consider that idiomatic. It says "the make_unique for gcc code is
>>     > std::make_unique". It means you only need a 'using namespace gcc;' at
>>     > the top of a source file and you get access to everything in namespace
>>     > gcc, even if it is something like std::make_unique that was originally
>>     > defined in a different namespace.
>>     >
>>
>>     If that's the approach, then GCC should import std::unique_ptr, 
>> std::move,
>>     std::foo, std::bar into the gcc namespace too, no?  Are you really going
>>     to propose that?
>>
>>
>> No, I don't follow the logic of "if you do it for one thing you must do it 
>> for everything". That's a straw man. But I don't really mind how this gets 
>> done. Your suggestion is fine.
>>
> 
> It isn't a strawman, Jon.  Maybe there's some miscommunication.  The 
> conversion started (and part of it is
> still quoted above), by thinking about what we'd do once we get to C++14, and 
> my suggestion to optimize
> for that.  When we get to the point when we require C++14, make_unique is no 
> longer different from any other
> symbol in the std namespace, and there will be no reason to treat it 
> differently anymore.  Like, if someone at
> that point proposes to remove the global make_unique or gcc::make_unique, and 
> replace all references with
> std::make_unique, there will be no real ground to object to that, why 
> wouldn't you want it?  This is very
> much like when you removed "gnu::unique_ptr" (not going to miss it) a few 
> months back -- you replaced
> it by "std::unique_ptr"; gnu::unique_ptr wasn't kept just because of history.

Sorry to reply to myself -- but I'm not sure it is clear what I meant above in 
the last sentence, so let
me try again: 'the "gnu::unique_ptr" wasn't rewritten as an import of 
std::unique_ptr into the gnu namespace
just because of history.'

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