> On Aug 2, 2019, at 2:06 PM, Richard Biener <richard.guent...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2019 at 1:01 PM Martin Liška <mli...@suse.cz> wrote: >> >> On 8/2/19 12:54 PM, Maxim Kuvyrkov wrote: >>>> On Aug 2, 2019, at 1:26 PM, Martin Liška <mli...@suse.cz> wrote: >>>> >>>> On 8/2/19 10:41 AM, Maxim Kuvyrkov wrote: >>>>> In the end, I don't care much to which version of the repo we switch, as >>>>> long as we switch. >>>> >>>> Hi Maxim. >>>> >>>> I really appreciate that you've been working on that. Same as you I would >>>> like to see >>>> any change that will lead to a git repository. >>>> >>>> I have couple of questions about the upcoming Cauldron: >>>> >>>> - Are you planning to attend? >>> >>> Unfortunately, I won't attend this time. >> >> I see. >> >>> >>>> - Would it be possible to prepare a voting during e.g. Steering Committee >>>> where >>>> we'll vote about transition options? >>>> - Would it make sense to do an online questionnaire in advance in order >>>> to guess what's prevailing opinion? >>>> >>>> If you are interested, I can help you? >>> >>> Let's organize an online survey now. While most active GCC developers will >>> attend Cauldron, many others will not, so we shouldn't rely on Cauldron to >>> make any final decisions. >> >> Sure, online is the best option as all active community members can vote. >> >>> >>> Martin, would you please organize the survey? >> >> Yes, but I haven't followed the discussion in recent weeks. Is the only >> question >> whether we want the current GIT mirror or your rebased git repository? >> Is Eric Raymond's transition still in play or not? > > 1) Stay with SVN > 2) Switch to the existing GIT mirror > 3) Wait for ERS to complete his conversion to GIT > 4) Use the existing new conversion to GIT fixing authors and commit messages > 5) I don't care > 6) I don't care as long as we switch to GIT > >> Are there any other sub-question regarding commit message format, git hooks, >> etc. >> that will deserve a place in the questionnaire? > > No, please do not make it unnecessarily complicated. Maybe the questionaire > can include a free-form text field for more comments. > > Btw, I do not believe we should do this kind of voting. Who's eligible to > vote? > Is the vote anonymous? What happens when the majority (what is the majority?) > votes for option N? > > IMHO voting is bike-shedding. > > Those who do the work decide. _They_ may ask questions _and_ decide whether > to listen to the answer.
I think we should do a /survey/, not organize a vote. From reading this thread an independent observer will get an impression that GCC developers are split into 3 roughly equal parts: 1. those who prefer switch to existing mirror, 2. those who prefer to wait for reposurgeon conversion, 3. those who prefer to switch to svn-git conversion with authors fixed. The survey might show that we have a clear majority for one of the options, and that we can conclude the discussion. If survey shows that we don't have a clear winner, then let's continue the discussion. IMO, anyone who considers himself or herself a GCC developer should participate and survey should not be anonymous to avoid abuse. -- Maxim Kuvyrkov www.linaro.org
