On August 20, 2015 7:35:37 PM GMT+02:00, Andrew Hughes <gnu.and...@redhat.com> wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >> snip... >> > >> > Having classpath (with binary files!) In the GCC SVN (or future >git) >> > repository is a significant burden, not to mention the size of the >> > distributed source tarball. >> > >> > If we can get rid of that that would be a great step in reducing >the >> > burden. >> > >> > Iff we can even without classpath build enough of java to be useful >(do you >> > really need gcj or only gij for bootstrapping openjdk? After all >ecj is >> > just >> > a drop-in to gcc as well). >> >> All the Java compilers are written in Java (ecj & javac). So to run >them, you >> need a JVM and its class library. >> >> It's those binary files which allow gcj to bootstrap the stack. If >OpenJDK >> had a minimal binary class library, it would be able to bootstrap >itself. >> >> But, as things stand, you need enough of the JDK to run a Java >compiler >> and build the OpenJDK class libraries. GCJ currently fulfils that >need >> where there isn't already an OpenJDK installation available. >> -- > >Actually, this makes me think... > >IcedTea already depends on CACAO and JamVM for alternate builds of >OpenJDK. We could instead include the bytecode binaries for GNU >Classpath >in IcedTea, bootstrap JamVM and use that to bootstrap OpenJDK. That >would remove our dependency on gcj and make IcedTea largely >self-sufficient. >It would also mean we could drop a bunch of conditional code which >depends >on what the system bootstrap JDK is, because it would always be the >in-tree >solution. > >We'd still need more than six months to make this transition though, >as such a change really needs time for testing.
OK, so how about deprecating Java for GCC 6 by removing it from the default languages and removing it for GCC 7 or before we switch to git (whatever happens earlier?) Richard.