Hi Tom.

I could ask my brother for the full details, but As far as I know it is the torrenting process that is specifically illegal, not the gpl license. I've freely downloaded lots of stuff from pendent productions, darker projects, podiobooks etc, and programs like 7zip, chipamp etc, and there are lots of people in the uk using nvda. none of them get prosecuted, however you could be for using bit torrent as a process.

While the copywrite laws are indeed ridiculous, in reality, ---- someone will never be investigated for breaking those laws unless they are attempting to prophit from them, because police in the uk are generally much more relaxed and focused on actual crime, mostly because when such cases do get to court the judge would probably just dismiss them because judges in the Uk have far more legal power than in the states.

It's like the laws related to drugs. A couple of mine are quite major canabis users, but never tak anything else. They've had the police in their house while they were smoking weed, and the police didn't bat an eyelid, sinse the police are far more concerned about people dealing in heroin, cocane etc than a couple of lads who like interesting tobacco.

indeed I've admitted on local radio myself that I've taken cannabis, which was absolutely fine as far as the law goes.

This is the case Mary warnock makes for the way euthanasia is treated in the Uk, being that while it is technically! illegal, and cases will be brought to trial, in practice nobody has ever actually gone to jail for performing it because everytime it's got to trial the judge has dismissed the case.

So, while laws in the Uk are indeed more draconian when it comes to general copywrite, and while this is severely annoying for getting anything accessible (as I've said, the government is less than committed to accessibility), I don't think we'll ever see people getting their daws bashed down by the police for having copywrite stuff on their computer so long as they don't try to make money by selling it. Heck, my brother! is a solicitor and is so straight according to the law you could use him as a ruler yet has lots of copied cds and audio books, and several peaces of open source software.

Actually I'll ask him about this next time I speak to him, sinse it's an interesting issue, and it might be that I have my facts wrong, or that the law has changed recently.

As to standing up to the government and changing their mind, ---- well any faith I had in the possibility of doing that went out of the window the day when myself, along with about a million other people wandered the streets of london to say we didn't want a war, where upon not only did we have! a war, but we had a war for a reason that was a total lie.

This is actually becoming a major problem in the Uk, confidence in the government and voter turn out has dropped to such a ridiculous level, indeed that's why at the moment we don't even have one party in power but have this coalition government because nobody actually got enough votes to gain the needed majority.

that is why the government has been trying to drumb up publicity, with first the royal wedding, then the jubalee, now the olympics, but sinse they've been spending millions on these events (the opening ceremony for the olympics will cost 60 million pounds in just thirty minutes), while at the same time making cuts left right and center to cope with the recession and reducing budgits to everything! among lots of people this hasn't gone down well at all as you can imagine, ---- especially when during the parades for the royal wedding the police were going around the streets removing posters which protesters had tacked up saying things like "we can't afford this!"

Getting back to copywrite though, while I absolutely agree with you that the major law should be changed, in practice because the law inforcement system is a bit more flexible, it doesn't make too much difference to individuals that it isn't.

Beware the Grue!

Dark.

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