Hi Dark,

Really? You mean if you have BitComet, BitStorm, Utorrent, or any
other torrent software on your system you can be prosecuted in the
United Kingdom? That's total madness. Apparently, the people who make
your laws don't realize how much legal stuff is available through
torrents today. Well, legal depending on who's copyright laws you are
using anyway.

For example, take Pendant Audio. They are a non-commercial  group of
actors who create audio podcasts of popular comics like Superman,
Batman, Supergirl, and Wonder Woman. They have a few other podcasts
such as Indiana Jones and Star Trek as well. The point is they are
free, non-commercial, and more or less legal because they use a type
of fair use fan fiction type license. While you can download current
shows from their website all of the high quality back episodes are
available through a torrent. Downloading those shows via torrent
client is perfectly legal.

Another example I can think of is music created under the creative
commons license. There are a lot of decent bands out there who haven't
been signed to a big label and have chosen for one reason or another
to license their music under the creative commons rather than a
restrictive license used by the RIAA. In that case it is perfectly
legal to redistribute that music via torrents provided the person who
redistributes the torrent include a text copy of the creative commons
license.

Finally, last but not least, is open source software. Thanks to Linux
and other open source platforms there is a lot of programs floating
around the web in source code format. There are some people who
download the source code for these open source applications, package
them for various Linux distributions, and offer torrents of binary
packages. Since the software is licensed under the GPL, LGPL, MIT, and
other open source licenses its not at all illegal to redistribute the
software.

Of course, I am given to understand that the copyright laws in the
U.K. are rather draconian, and have not been updated to deal with all
the open source licenses like creative commons and GPL. Which is
really too bad, because there is a lot of free stuff out there that
the U.K. government doesn't recognize as free because of their stupid
outdated laws.

I remember perhaps two years ago the Gnome Foundation, the guys who
develop the Gnome desktop for Linux, Solaris, and FreeBSD, actually
had a major court battle in the U.K. over this very issue. Apparently
the U.K. didn't recognize the General Public License as a valid
software license and  therefore the Gnome desktop and related
applications were technically not legal in the U.K. This is a very
serious problem, because people are really getting the short end of
the stick.

For one thing the Gnome Accessibility Group are the people behind
developing the Orca screen reader, Gnome Magnifyer,Gnome Onscreen
Keyboard, and other related accessibility  packages such as ATK and
At-Spi. In other words not only was the U.K. government denying people
access to the Gnome desktop in the general sense they were also
denying every blind citizen the right to free and low cost
accessibility software because of their stupid, hard headed, outdated
copyright laws. This issue just isn't exclusive to Linux users either.

The NVDA screen reader for Windows is also licensed under the GPL.
That's the same license as Gnome uses. Until the U.K. updates their
laws technically downloading and using a free screen reader like NVDA
in the U.K. is illegal as I understand it. That's nuts!

Excuse the rant, but I think it is high time you Brits take some kind
of action against your government. They need a good kick in the seat
of the pants, a few heads need to roll, and  someone has to have the
guts to stand up to them and tell them this is how things are going to
be. In the words of Twisted Sister, "We're not going to take it! No,
we're not going to take it! We're not going to take it any more!" :D

Cheers!


On 6/18/12, dark <[email protected]> wrote:
> In the Uk, the actual torrent software! is illegal, and you could
> potentially be prosecuted for having it on your computer, ---- though in
> practice few people ever actually are prosecuted unless they actually
> attempt to sell illegal copies they've got from torrents for prophit.
>
> Still, that is why I don't use torrents myself, just in case.
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> Dark.

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