I aggree draconis.
uia is really good, why ms didn't use it earlier is beyond me.
do they know how much strife we users have had to deal with drivers, morror drivers dcm chains, and drivers overlapping forcing reformats.

At 03:32 AM 5/1/2013, you wrote:
Hi Tom and all,

I agree entirely, which is why, in my previous note, I specified that the mess isn't just for screen reader users. Windows 8 is widely getting slammed by users because it is a mess, but that has nothing to do with the accessibility. Microsoft is improving with access, even if it is extremely late to the party.

On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:04 AM, Thomas Ward <thomasward1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Dallas,
>
> Correct. One of the things Windows 8 brings to the table regarding
> accessibility is Microsoft Narrator is vastly improved over prior
> versions.Wile I wouldn't take it over something like NVDA it is far
> better than anything else Microsoft has provided before. Better screen
> review commands, and better Sapi voices as well. Some of the new
> Microsoft voices on Windows 8 are easily as good as the Vocalizer
> voices and they come free with the OS. I've used Microsoft David with
> NvDA and Narrator and it isn't too bad.
>
> Further more Microsoft has replaced MSAA with U.I. Automation which is
> a far better API than MSAA ever was. U.I. Automation is the way of the
> future and will revolutionize access on Windows 8 and beyond. As a
> result of technologies like U.I. Automation screen readers like Jaws
> and Window-Eyes no longer need off-screen models and video drivers to
> read the screen because they can get it from the Windows API directly.
> This will only aid not  hinder access.
>
> Bottom line, the user interface has changed drastically in Windows 8
> since Windows XP, but different is not the same as inaccessible. The
> statement that Microsoft is getting less accessible is just propaganda
> bandied about by people who are trying to justify not upgrading to
> Windows 8.
>
> Cheers!
>
>
> On 4/30/13, Dallas O'Brien <dallas.r.obr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi, also, I'm not too sure where the idea that Microsoft has not been
>> helping accessibility in more modern versions of windows.
>> In fact, Windows 7, and more especially windows 8, are far more accessible
>> than XP ever was. And their knew protocols, and APIs, that provide better
>> accessibility now, then before. So again, not sure where this one came from.
>> And I agree,, having an old machine with the older OS, is often the better
>> option. Obviously, if you're fine with what you have now, then stay with it.
>> However, XP will be losing support as of this time next year. So I would
>> suggest, that you start looking at moving ahead now, before you're forced
>> to.
>> Mainly, because of the security risk you will be dealing with, when XP no
>> longer is being provided the security updates. And in this modern world,
>> where you are connected so much, to the Internet, it would be pointless to
>> remain in a less secure OS.
>> I myself, am seriously considering going with a Mac for my next computer,
>> and dual booting windows on it. Best of both worlds. The only problem with
>> that, is the cost of a Mac out right. Anyway, on with the games. LOL.
>> Regards:
>> Dallas
>
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