On Wed, Jun 05, 2019 at 02:12:07PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> The default theme for fvwm includes a big box that appears in the lower
> right hand corner of the screen.  Is there a name for that whole thing?
> If so, and if someone would be kind enough to tell me what it is, then
> I'll know what to call it in future.

Use FvwmIdent or xprop to find out.

> Anyway, that wide but not very tall box includes several different parts:
> 
>     1) A part where all of the current open windows are listed by name (and
>        each name is clickable)

FvwmIconMan

>     2)  A square part consisting of a sort of map, divided into four quadrants
>         that shows you whar part of your four-part virtual desktop you
>         are currently actually looking at.

FvwmPager

> For me, 3c was in fact just a blank space.  I just now figured out why.  On
> FreeBSD, the xload command is in a separate package, all on its own, and that
> package is *not* currently listed as dependency of the fvwm package.  (I will
> be speakingt o the maintainer about this.)  As a result, my system was running

No sane maintainer is going to make xload a dependency of FVWM.  The point of
the default config here isn't to do that, but to provide some sane defaults
where possible.

> In any case, I would like to suggest to the fvwm maintainers that they do as
> I have done and substitute out the xload invocation in the default theme and
> replace it, as I have done, with a digital xclock display of the current date.

No.  I think what you've done is to prove the point -- that being that you're
expected to use this config as a starting to point to make your own
modifications, which you're doing.

> I would really appreciate it if the maintainers would fix this self-evident
> bug.  It is most annoying.  The minimization/iconization process should not
> be hiding minimized window icons underneath the boxes created by the default
> theme.  That's just wrong, and one would hope that there might be some simple
> way to get the window minimization/iconization process to avoid doing this
> annoying and clearly wrong thing.

This isn't a bug.

Thanks,
Thomas

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