moi, j'ai mieux que le minitel. Il y a quelques temps, je me suis fait des ennemis en poussant pour la séparation de [FRNOG] en [FRnOG] [MISC], [FRnOG] [TECH], etc. Maintenant, je propose [FRnOG] [MISC] [NSA ON], [FRnOG] [TECH] [NSA ON],etc. et [FRnOG] [MISC] [NSA OFF], [FRnOG] [TECH] [NSA OFF ]
Comme ça, pas besoin de cryptage, personne ne viendra lire nos messages avec le tag [NSA OFF]. Faut dire, même sans ça, le tag [MISC] me semble suffisant pour être sur de ne pas être lu ;) William Gacquer Le 6 sept. 2013 à 11:54, Michael Hallgren <m.hallg...@free.fr> a écrit : > -------- Message original -------- > Sujet: The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it > back > Date : Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:37:53 +0200 > De : Eugen Leitl <eu...@leitl.org> > Pour : cypherpu...@al-qaeda.net, NANOG list <na...@nanog.org>, denog > <de...@lists.denog.de> > > > > http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/05/government-betrayed-internet-nsa-spying > > The US government has betrayed the Internet. We need to take it back > > The NSA has undermined a fundamental social contract. We engineers built the > Internet – and now we have to fix it > > Bruce Schneier > > The Guardian, Thursday 5 September 2013 20.04 BST > > Internet business cables in California. > > 'Dismantling the surveillance state won't be easy. But whatever happens, > we're going to be breaking new ground.' Photograph: Bob Sacha/Corbis > Government and industry have betrayed the Internet, and us. > > By subverting the Internet at every level to make it a vast, multi-layered > and robust surveillance platform, the NSA has undermined a fundamental social > contract. The companies that build and manage our Internet infrastructure, > the companies that create and sell us our hardware and software, or the > companies that host our data: we can no longer trust them to be ethical > Internet stewards. > > This is not the Internet the world needs, or the Internet its creators > envisioned. We need to take it back. > > And by we, I mean the engineering community. > > Yes, this is primarily a political problem, a policy matter that requires > political intervention. > > But this is also an engineering problem, and there are several things > engineers can – and should – do. > > One, we should expose. If you do not have a security clearance, and if you > have not received a National Security Letter, you are not bound by a federal > confidentially requirements or a gag order. If you have been contacted by the > NSA to subvert a product or protocol, you need to come forward with your > story. Your employer obligations don't cover illegal or unethical activity. > If you work with classified data and are truly brave, expose what you know. > We need whistleblowers. > > We need to know how exactly how the NSA and other agencies are subverting > routers, switches, the Internet backbone, encryption technologies and cloud > systems. I already have five stories from people like you, and I've just > started collecting. I want 50. There's safety in numbers, and this form of > civil disobedience is the moral thing to do. > > Two, we can design. We need to figure out how to re-engineer the Internet to > prevent this kind of wholesale spying. We need new techniques to prevent > communications intermediaries from leaking private information. > > We can make surveillance expensive again. In particular, we need open > protocols, open implementations, open systems – these will be harder for the > NSA to subvert. > > The Internet Engineering Task Force, the group that defines the standards > that make the Internet run, has a meeting planned for early November in > Vancouver. This group needs to dedicate its next meeting to this task. This > is an emergency, and demands an emergency response. > > Three, we can influence governance. I have resisted saying this up to now, > and I am saddened to say it, but the US has proved to be an unethical steward > of the Internet. The UK is no better. The NSA's actions are legitimizing the > Internet abuses by China, Russia, Iran and others. We need to figure out new > means of Internet governance, ones that makes it harder for powerful tech > countries to monitor everything. For example, we need to demand transparency, > oversight, and accountability from our governments and corporations. > > Unfortunately, this is going play directly into the hands of totalitarian > governments that want to control their country's Internet for even more > extreme forms of surveillance. We need to figure out how to prevent that, > too. We need to avoid the mistakes of the International Telecommunications > Union, which has become a forum to legitimize bad government behavior, and > create truly international governance that can't be dominated or abused by > any one country. > > Generations from now, when people look back on these early decades of the > Internet, I hope they will not be disappointed in us. We can ensure that they > don't only if each of us makes this a priority, and engages in the debate. We > have a moral duty to do this, and we have no time to lose. > > Dismantling the surveillance state won't be easy. Has any country that > engaged in mass surveillance of its own citizens voluntarily given up that > capability? Has any mass surveillance country avoided becoming totalitarian? > Whatever happens, we're going to be breaking new ground. > > Again, the politics of this is a bigger task than the engineering, but the > engineering is critical. We need to demand that real technologists be > involved in any key government decision making on these issues. We've had > enough of lawyers and politicians not fully understanding technology; we need > technologists at the table when we build tech policy. > > To the engineers, I say this: we built the Internet, and some of us have > helped to subvert it. Now, those of us who love liberty have to fix it. > > • Bruce Schneier writes about security, technology, and people. His latest > book is Liars and Outliers: Enabling the Trust That Society Needs to Thrive. > He is working for the Guardian on other NSA stories > > > > > --------------------------- > Liste de diffusion du FRnOG > http://www.frnog.org/ --------------------------- Liste de diffusion du FRnOG http://www.frnog.org/
