The couple is apparently heavily involved in helping match disabled people with employers, setting us up for a fairly complicated exploration of sociality and interpersonal relationships. Everyone at the table admits to atheism even if they don't like the word because of how it's been used. I'm trying to be charitable in accusing myself of mansplaining. The woman was fond of the Jesuits, which *should* have been my cue to ask more questions and talk less. But I didn't. Her attraction to Buddhism was a trigger. And her explanation of what it means to her was laden with what I think are more core to Taoism. The conversation orbited "letting go", abstractly shared by both philosophies, though perhaps the letting go of different things.
Then the man strayed a bit into nihilism. So it ended up being a conversation about "objectives", meritocracy, moral luck, etc. just housed in the trappings of religious philosophy. Lying awake at 3am in the hotel, I had nothing better to do. But I can't excuse my attempts to get Kimi to be more concrete. Her framing of the qi field versus Buddhist illusory self with (temporarily) real intention was all over the map until I introduced the difference between paraconsistent and paracomplete logic(s). Then she got concrete, but started lying to me. Now I'll have to read Roger's Version and Illuminating the Mind ... or simply feel guilty for *not* reading them. 8^D On 8/31/25 10:58 AM, Prof David West wrote:
I would be very curious as to the content of your "mansplaining." Also interested in the prevalence of "logic" in what you have shared. I know of multiple efforts, some quite good, by western analytic philosophers of their counterparts in Buddhist philosophy. I would recommend one in particular: Illuminating the Mind: An Introduction to Buddhist Epistemology (Buddhist Philosophy for Philosophers) by Jonathan Stoltz (Author) I know of no similar efforts to find/apply logic in/to Taoism, except some ancient Chinese Logic Philosophers trying to relate (by force fitting) Taoism and Confucianism. I would find it fun and interesting to sit in the bar (Salon) and converse on this topic. Alas we are rather far apart. I did just drive from Baltimore to Underwood WA, (north shore of Columbia) to deliver a Prius to friends who moved there.
On 8/31/25 10:04 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
I'm reminded of Roger's Version by John Updike. I remember reading it and thinking "What the hell is wrong with people?"
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