I don't have any good referenes to the way that individual behaviour
composes to group beyond the anecdotal (we've discussed whether a mob of
angry people is an angry mob?) but I do think it is an important topic
to understand. I think it is a corollary to how emergent
phenomena/affordances "stack".
It is our "habit" to describe particles at all scales in the same mode,
as if the composition of "mass" and the energetics that they carry and
are influenced by (strong, weak, gravity, EM) or coupled through are
entirely familiar to our mundane intuitions developed throwing, rolling,
bouncing balls around. So if that fails in something presumably as
cut/dried as physics (subatomic, nucleonic, molecular, etc), why would
we expect it to work in the interactions of far-from-spherica cow-humans?
To harp on my intersubjective ideas, I will claim (with little
substantiation) that the fact that our interactions among humans are
significantly moderated/defined/informed by our *beliefs* about one
another and about the systems we've created and engage in that in some
cases, those part-whole, metonymic/synechdochic conflations might be
more motivated due to that mediation through belief/expectation than for
example, excpecting a quark or a photon or even neutron to "act" like a
billiard ball, just because it is the convenient/common
analogic/metaphoric referent?
On 7/3/2025 9:34 AM, glen wrote:
I'm used to interpersonal projection. E.g. Joe Rogan's supplements vs.
his accusations re the mRNA vaccines:
Rogan's Big Pharma Scandal Keeps Getting Weirder
https://youtu.be/bogYSu3cCLg?si=U1Jk93n5DC4gppdx
But I'm not habituated to the analogy of projection ("lady doth
protest too much") to national/party scale propaganda:
Projection as an Interpersonal Influence Tactic: The Effects of the
Pot Calling the Kettle Black
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/01461672012711010
I expect man-babies like Trump to accuse their targets of their own
misdeeds
(https://theconversation.com/why-trump-accuses-people-of-wrongdoing-he-himself-committed-an-explanation-of-projection-237912).
And to the extent that the right in the US (including SCOTUS) believe
in and achieve the unitary executive, the analogy between
interpersonal projection and national or group projection will be more
accurate. This is one reason why "projection propaganda" worked well
for Russia and China but not so much for the US, because the
difference in scope between an individual and a regime was smaller
there than here in the US.
So given that one of my whipping posts is that we bear the burden of
showing how group behavior composes from individual behavior before we
assert that the map is in any way coherent, I can't use "projection
propaganda" without coming up with that composition. If any of you
historians or journalists have any clue sticks to hit me with, I'd
very much appreciate it.
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