Yes! But the sports betters may have an easier time of it than betting on other 
things. (Though I'm guessing they bet on spreads, player stats, etc., too.) 
This Kalshi market helps demonstrate (to me) how processes like instant runoff 
voting are superior to deeply human-in-the-loop decision-making (e.g. regular 
runoff voting):

https://kalshi.com/markets/kxllm1/yearend-top-llm

It's a popularity contest, sure. But "Style Control" well demonstrates some 
biases in popularity contests:

https://lmsys.org/blog/2024-08-28-style-control/

You can get a feel for it by toggling it at the leaderboard. Do you prefer your 
Robot Overloard coerce you in a verbose way? With purple prose? Or do you 
prefer a dense, dry, and to the point delivery? In order for us to give this 
market the benefit of the doubt and claim it composes information in a richer 
way than, say, a Big5 team of consultants might, you'd have to dig into the 
personality (character?) of LMSys, the leaderboard code, the demos that use 
ChatBots, etc. ... i.e. the judge(s) ... much the same way an academic wants 
information on the study section that'll review their application or an author 
wants information on the editor(s) of a journal. With sports, it *feels* to me 
less susceptible to bias. Am I rejecting thought in favor of feeling? IDK.

On a[n un]related note, I was very happy to learn that Billie Eilish actually 
sings:

https://youtu.be/Vb9xSQ9XYvY?si=k4e-YaoojeZ9Q9I0

On 11/29/24 10:50, Roger Critchlow wrote:
It's funny, I just rescued part of this thread from my spam folder which had 
ballooned over the last month.

So I just read this, which Eric wrote back in October:

One of the good things that Paxton emphasizes about what drives fascist movements from the ground up is the determined rejection of thought in favor of feeling.  Hannah Arendt goes on at length to get the same thing across.

    I envision it (with some discomfort about misfits of the metaphor) as being 
like a social counterpart to berserking, or (even less apt) elephants going 
into musth.  It’s not even “rage” per se, but something about as destructive, 
only chosen.


    I see the various repubs that make communities with the dems, and speak as 
if they hope this will “accomplish” some “change”.  For the Bannon-followers, I 
feel like I know exactly what this looks like.  It is the various subcategories 
of hated ones self-identifying, and sewing on their sleeves a marker of 
“establishment characters”.  Bannon preaches to the mob:  “You see; they’re 
scared!  We have them on the run.  If you’ll just push a little harder we can 
corner them, and we’ll give them the beating of their lives.  Imagine how 
powerful you will feel.  They’ll want you to stop, and they won’t be faking it, 
but they won’t be able to make you stop.  Won’t that be the best feeling you 
ever had?  You’ll be able to feel, finally, that you actually exist.”  (Bannon 
doesn’t put in the final line; I put that in.)


And it reminded me of things I've been thinking about while watching ads for sports betting during NFL 
games.  There's this recent group of ads about "feeding your hunches", 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA6gw3Lxjjg <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA6gw3Lxjjg>, which 
end with "make every moment more."

It's an appeal to make your actions significant, for a particularly cheap form 
of significance.  Googling around this turned up a lot of slick tech for 
personalising sports betting ads, too.

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