Yeah. Bill Rees and Meghan Seibert want 90% of us to die https://www.realgnd.org/people (or a position paper somewhere in their writings).
On their people page, you can see what happy ecologists they are, and BIll is a friendly old grandfather with a beard. I shouldn’t be snotty. I think they are actually very tortured about their dictum that 90% of us should die. And I think in some sense they are committed, good people. But I put them up here, because somehow people collapsing under decades of frustration seem to develop a misanthropy that causes them to forget It’s Not All About You (and how tortured you are, being the only truth-teller in a lonely world). If you really care about the thing you say, then it should eclipse your own self-importance enough that you just stay focused on the task. I don’t know in how far their positions turn out to represent solid numbers. Maybe some part of it. But I have said that before. Eric > On Feb 22, 2023, at 1:06 PM, Gary Schiltz <g...@naturesvisualarts.com> wrote: > > A few really do want our species to go extinct, but many believe that we are > already overpopulated and need to level off or reduce population. I lean only > slightly toward the latter. > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 12:51 PM Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com> wrote: > Agreed. But if we don't construct any new ones and the existing ones all die > (they will) we will run out. Is that a reasonable goal? > > On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 10:20 AM glen <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > We do not need more people. We have plenty of people. Please stop > constructing people. >8^D > > On 2/22/23 09:16, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > I am worried however. I have two grandsons in their 20s. Each has a > > girlfriend. Those young women want nothing to do with babies. I assume > > they have younger siblings. I hope that as they enter their 30s their > > attitudes will change because of the realization that they are running out > > of time. > > > > --- > > Frank C. 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