I think Rogan and Young are representative agents. They are of course individuals and celebrities, but they mirror something like an eigenvector in a space of values and to some extent cognitive ability. The tantalizing thing about a Trump is that he is just a guy that has tested a message on big audiences to find slogans that work. The slogans then take on a life of their own like we see with anti-vaxxers diverging from Trump's narcissism about leading the Warp speed vaccine project. Of COURSE, Trump has ZERO to do with the maturation of the mRNA vaccine idea. But there are morons that believe that, and it is informative to use these representative agents to estimate how many morons there are of one sort or another. DLU kind of got at this idea a little. Now we have the means to identify the herds, but apparently poor tools for effectively herding. I suspect what Glen believes is that there need not be herds nor herding. If I were herding, of course, I'd look for a cliff. But that's just me. ________________________________ From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of glen <geprope...@gmail.com> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2022 11:28 AM To: friam@redfish.com <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Cautionary Tales: CliFi
This is where Marcus' Musk-as-philosopher-king goes astray. It's on display clearly with the recent kerfuffle between Joe Rogan and Neal Young. Although Rogan gives lip service to skepticism, open-mindedness, etc. what his celebrity actually does is promote faith-based decision making, much the same way we think of other influencers (whether by their billionaire status or media reach or whatever) as forces of nature. They're definitely not forces of nature. They're successful con artists. That's what the "con" in "con artist" means ... misplaced confidence. On 1/28/22 09:46, Steve Smith wrote: > it IS my place to join Citizens of the (community, county, shire, state, > nation-state, earth) to discuss and consider what could/should be treated as > "the commons" and how therefore we manage them (or more relevantly, how we > decide how to shape the landscape of forces that effectively > manage/regulate/define them)... emergent, collective phenomena ultimately > dominate, no matter what the myriad stripes of linear conspiracy theorists > may try to demonstrate. -- glen Theorem 3. There exists a double master function. .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
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