I think the issue is, like Sweden and Finland, they have the role to Russia as buffers to U.S. medium range missiles.
> On Jan 25, 2022, at 5:37 AM, glen <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Why Ukraine is still not a NATO member: who is to blame and what to do? > https://uacrisis.org/en/why-ukraine-is-still-not-in-nato > > Does anyone here have any better understanding of why Ukraine membership is > so "toxic"? Is this simply a disagreement between hawks and doves wrt Putin's > dream of a new USSR? I seem to remember back when Crimea was first occupied > by Russia that nearly half the people really did identify more as Russians > than Ukrainians. Ignoring that polls are fraught, is there a sense that a > significant bloc Ukrainians, themselves, might disapprove of joining NATO? > > -- > glen > Theorem 3. There exists a double master function. > > > .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: > 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ > 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/