The Shaw who is quoted there's Mary Shaw, a very accomplished computer scientist. She and I went flying together once. She is a avid pilot. Maybe I should say was. She's older than I am and insurance companies make it difficult after 70.
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 11:31 AM Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com> wrote: > I did not know Pamela well, having only met her in person once or twice. > We did have a number of very gracious/generous off-list exchanges after Joe > died. I am always intrigued by anyone who bothers to engage with the > harder/tech world from a humanist point of view. > > I didn't know Joe at all, but in listening to a panel discussion > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Iv-T-RqDfc> with Pamela a couple of > years ago, she attributed the "Reasonable Person Principle" to Joe, or at > least to him having shepherded it well while CS chair at CMU. On a good > day, it feels as if FriAM tries to approach this. > > From Joe's Memorium at CMU > <https://csd.cmu.edu/news/memoriam-joseph-f-traub> > > "I have always admired Joe's leadership style, which was strongly rooted > in the Reasonable Person Principle," said Shaw, the Alan J. Perlis > University Professor of Computer Science and a National Medal of Technology > and Innovation recipient. "He made decisions by building consensus, > sometimes by public meetings preceded by position papers, sometimes by > walking around and talking to people. He rarely, if ever, was the main > public advocate for a position, but he rather shepherded the discussion to > a reasonable outcome." > > I had forgotten that Pamela published a memoir and announcing that was > (best I can tell) her last contribution to this list just over 2 years > ago... > > https://press.etc.cmu.edu/index.php/product/this-could-be-important/ > > Mary has read a lot of memoirs with me in the last 4-5 years... Pamela's > now goes on our list. I only wish I'd bothered when she announced it. > > - Steve > > > On 11/5/21 4:02 AM, Merle Lefkoff wrote: > > Thank you Marcus and Stephen for your remarks. Pamela and Joe were good > friends, and she was a mentor for me as I struggled to enter the new world > of complex systems. We met when Pamela interviewed me for her book "The > Futures for Women" which, not surprisingly, you won't see mentioned among > her many contributions (some things never change). > > On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 3:02 AM Stephen Guerin <stephen.gue...@simtable.com> > wrote: > >> We were fortunate to have Pamela among us. Take some time and search the >> interwebs >> on Pamela <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pamela_McCorduck>. Order her >> books >> <https://www.amazon.com/s?k=pamela+mccorduck&i=digital-text&ref=nb_sb_noss_2> >> and watch her interviews >> <https://www.google.com/search?q=pamela+mccorduck&rlz=1CAOTWH_enUS880&sxsrf=AOaemvIiN1Cz-TSMhP2g1fOUSNsTjPIDlw:1636080887613&source=lnms&tbm=vid&sa=X&sqi=2&ved=2ahUKEwiDs4ShnID0AhXyh_0HHapQB54Q_AUoAXoECAEQAw&biw=1200&bih=649&dpr=2>. >> Pamela witnessed the birth and the growth of AI and danced and sparred with >> the great luminaries (Herb Simon, Ed Feigenbaum, her husband Joe Traub, Raj >> Reddy, etc) - She was a humanist that interpreted the field and created >> bridges for Snow's Two Cultures. She was an equal among the masters. >> >> She reminded me of my favorite aunts, one that humored explorations but >> let you know you still had no idea what you're talking about. I always >> valued her perspective and was honored she was watching and >> occasionally participating. >> >> Pamela was one of the great ones. >> >> -Stephen >> _______________________________________________________________________ >> stephen.gue...@simtable.com <stephen.gue...@simtable.com> >> CEO, Simtable http://www.simtable.com >> 1600 Lena St #D1, Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> office: (505)995-0206 mobile: (505)577-5828 >> twitter: @simtable >> z <http://zoom.com/j/5055775828>oom.simtable.com >> >> >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 9:39 PM Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I'm so sorry about that. I just reviewed the many emails Pam and I >>> exchanged over the years. >>> >>> --- >>> Frank C. 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