Excellent! Thanks. My complete ignorance forced me to duckduckgo it. The results were mostly useless. But Urban Dict seems to work:
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Neener-neener One of the definitions also raises the brinkmanship aspect Nick seemed to include (with "I'm more pomo than you"). It's still not clear to me if Nick thinks *I* was brinking him or if he simply had no serious response to my criticism and just defaulted to his own brinking. Whatever, my criticism still stands: that Rawls' was a neoliberal justificationist, not any kind of deep egalitarian. But I'm working off very old and faulty memory. So, I wait with baited breath for a counter. As always, treating posts to a permanent, public forum like this as if they were chatty conversations seems ill-advised. I'm guilty of it, too. But ... tu quoque, I guess. On 10/27/21 8:11 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > On 10/27/21 7:53 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: >> Most people would spell that, "nanner, nanner, nanner", I think. It's heard >> on playgrounds all over, or it was in the 40s and 50s. In Mexico they sing, >> "lero, lero, lero", using the same notes. > > It would seem there are many regional and quasi-generational dialects of > Silly Taunts... I believe my playground training involved something more > like "Nyah, Nyah, Nyah!" with a sprinkling of allusions to one's grandma > wearing army boots. We also were issued lariats along with dodge-balls and > were allowed (up to injury that drew blood) to chase one another around and > try to "head" or "heel" one another. I never understood what the teachers > were thinking, though I did enjoy the "game", both as roper and ropee... go > figure. > > I think this thread backs into a metaphor of mail-list-as-playground/sandlot > and some of the kind of bullying the Jon tried to reference. > > >> >> --- >> Frank C. Wimberly >> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> >> 505 670-9918 >> Santa Fe, NM >> >> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 7:35 AM uǝlƃ ☤>$ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> I have no idea how to respond to this post. I don't know what "neener, >> neener, neener" means, unfortunately. But the grand narrative I'm talking >> about is the (I suppose Rawlsian?) social contract, including the wall of >> ignorance. That's distinct, I think, from the altruism of joining a >> collective effort to take responsibility for the future. The social contract >> argument seems fundamentally self-serving, especially the wall of ignorance >> fulcrum. It's a neo-liberal rhetorical device used to bridge the chasm >> between self-serving and pro-social perspectives. >> >> It's that bridge that is the grand narrative of the social contract. If >> you don't buy into that story, then the whole thing comes crumbling down. >> Most of my generation (X) and the Y's and Z's are calling the emperor naked >> at this point. So when you tell the story of the pre- and post- civil war >> understanding of the constitution to anyone under, say, 50 years old, you >> *might* want to consider that. >> >> For some reason, I feel like King Arthur at the base of the French >> castle in The Holy Grail: https://youtu.be/QSo0duY7-9s >> >> >> On 10/26/21 1:03 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com wrote: >> > Grand narratives. Oh, neener, neener, neener. I assume that we are >> all endowed with a very fuzzy ruleset from which patterns of association >> arise. What's grand about it. I admit to a desire to join with others in >> taking responsibility for our future. I think that such a joining is a >> "good", even while conceding that, given complexity, that the future we plan >> for is unlikely to be the future we get. >> > >> > How DARE you pin me with a categorical pin. Besides, I am much more >> pomo than you are. >> > >> > As I said: Neener, neener, neener. And so's your old man. -- "Better to be slapped with the truth than kissed with a lie." ☤>$ uǝlƃ .-- .- -. - / .- -.-. - .. --- -. ..--.. / -.-. --- -. .--- ..- --. .- - . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn UTC-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
