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--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 1:07 PM Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com> wrote: > Apparently even Jesus was narcissistic. He was hungry when he saw a fig > tree. Upon discovering that it had no fruit he zapped it so that it would > never produce fruit. Or something like that. Any Bible scholars out there? > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 1:02 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> wrote: > >> Hah, what was that you said about everyone being narcissistic? (I’m not >> so sure it is so.) >> >> >> >> *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2021 11:57 AM >> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> friam@redfish.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Revising the American Revolution >> >> >> >> Nick, where did the concept come from that persons other than the >> participants will read these conversations? If you're referring to your >> hope that scholarly papers will emerge from this material won't that >> involve extensive review and editing? >> >> >> >> Frank >> >> >> >> --- >> Frank C. Wimberly >> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> >> 505 670-9918 >> Santa Fe, NM >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 12:19 PM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com> >> wrote: >> >> Maybe recess and grade school sports are like a lab experiment for >> parents and teachers and they gain valuable insights (assuming it is not >> just sadistic)? I have no fond memories of T ball, more like PTSD! And >> dodge ball (sanctioned) set the stage for literal target practice on the >> weird kids. This is not as overt in adult life but still there.. >> >> >> >> On Oct 27, 2021, at 10:49 AM, Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> When a grown person says it, it's playful. When those little people on >> the playground say it, it's full of derision and crying sometimes follows. >> >> >> >> --- >> Frank C. Wimberly >> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> >> 505 670-9918 >> Santa Fe, NM >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 11:40 AM <thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Frank, >> >> >> >> Well, hang on there, big fella. “Scorn” is a bridge too far. As >> somebody famous once said, “I know my own intent.” I meant only to suggest >> – humorously, I hoped – that Glen and I had already entered the domain of >> play ground taunt with his … >> >> >> >> . But social contracts are only one, very debatable, construction for >> "inalienable rights". Just because it makes the most sense to you, doesn't >> mean it provides the solid foundation you're looking for. It looks more >> like postmodernist sand, to me. You modernists, who faithfully buy into >> Grand Narratives that fit your priors would be suckered in by it. But I >> don't. >> >> >> >> … all packed and gussied up with its ad hominems. All this is meant to >> be playful, and the moment it stops being fun, is the moment it should >> stop. If I have brought us there, please accept my apologies and let’s let >> it go. >> >> >> >> All this is trivial compared to Glen’s suggestion that we have to be >> careful what we say here, not just because of possible hurts endured by one >> another (which I do care about) but because of who might be listening. >> This is the second such suggestion from a person I deeply respect that has >> been offered me this week and I find it deeply concerning. I am so used >> to the freedom that my professional obscurity conveys that I never worry >> about such reputational concerns. Also, being an up-tight easterner, I am >> probably more self-canceling than many of you. Finally, my die is already >> cast. But *should I* be listening to what I write with an Other Ear? >> For your sakes, at least? >> >> >> >> I suggest we start another thread: “What Cannot Be Said On Friam” and >> explore this matter carefully. >> >> >> >> Nick >> >> >> >> Nick Thompson >> >> thompnicks...@gmail.com >> >> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ >> >> >> >> *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly >> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 27, 2021 10:50 AM >> *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < >> friam@redfish.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Revising the American Revolution >> >> >> >> It's a form of scorn and derision to say, for example, "You lose; I >> win". Very obnoxious. >> >> --- >> Frank C. Wimberly >> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> >> 505 670-9918 >> Santa Fe, NM >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 8:02 AM uǝlƃ ☤>$ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> That's unhelpful. 8^D What does it mean? >> >> On 10/27/21 6:53 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: >> > Most people would spell that, "nanner, nanner, nanner", I think. It's >> heard on playgrounds all over, or it was in the 40s and 50s. In Mexico >> they sing, "lero, lero, lero", using the same notes. >> > >> > >> > On Wed, Oct 27, 2021, 7:35 AM uǝlƃ ☤>$ <geprope...@gmail.com <mailto: >> geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > >> > I have no idea how to respond to this post. I don't know what >> "neener, neener, neener" means, unfortunately. [...] >> > >> > >> > On 10/26/21 1:03 PM, thompnicks...@gmail.com <mailto: >> thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > Grand narratives. Oh, neener, neener, neener. [...] >> > > >> > > As I said: Neener, neener, neener. 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