That's just nonsense. By the time you're at the ER, the vaccine is largely irrelevant. Plus, when some 18 year old kid comes in unconscious with a gunshot wound, it's difficult to ask her if she's been vaccinated or not.
Anyway, most large hospitals are under a mandate to treat whoever walks in the door, even if they don't have insurance. To make the change you suggest would require major legislative effort and, perhaps, re-architect the laws that govern public medicine. You're not gonna do that anytime soon. Taking a look at this site: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/09/944379919/new-data-reveal-which-hospitals-are-dangerously-full-is-yours it seems the ratio of covid patients is actually lower than I thought. The actual problem is insufficient buffer capacity, not the surge in covid patients. The covid patients are simply demonstrating the problem. On 8/25/21 9:58 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > Will you consent to a vaccine? > > Yes: You get treatment for your non-COVID condition. No: Get lost. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 9:53 AM > To: friam@redfish.com > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side > > Because the majority of the patients in the ERs are not covid patients. (Last > I heard the percentages were around 60-70% are non-covid. But I'm sure it's > location dependent.) They're regular people with regular problems, many of > whom delayed medical treatments for a year due to lockdowns. We did a little > too much "just in time" logistical planning with our hospitals and this > fairly tiny bump is demonstrating that our buffer wasn't high enough. > > The smart thing to do is increase capacity, correct the buffer size, and take > care of both covid patients and regular people. > > > On 8/25/21 9:33 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >> Why should we increase the capacity of the hospitals? Just don't let them >> in. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of u?l? ?>$ >> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2021 9:25 AM >> To: friam@redfish.com >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] On the: RLY!? side >> >> Well, only if you don't make a big stink out of it. If it's a normal, >> everyday thing, yeah sure. But if it's some litmus test for who's with us or >> who's against us, then they're much less willing to submit to such tests. >> >> You see this in spades w.r.t. to the protests. In Portland, they antifa are >> rigorous about staging counter protests, which makes the fascists dig in and >> be more committed to protesting, which makes the antifa more committed, ad >> infinitum. Here in Olympia, it's mostly just the fascists out there >> protesting mask and vaccine mandates. (Yes, irony is dead.) But as a result, >> they're anticlimactic and peter out pretty comfortably. >> >> Along the same lines of "don't feed the troll", if we focused our attention >> on increasing the capacities of hospitals rather than brow beating the >> anti-vaxers, I suspect the vax rate would climb steadily and the reactionary >> tendencies of the anti-vaxers would abate. >> >> >> On 8/25/21 9:09 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >>> These same people are willing to submit to an employer's drug tests. -- ☤>$ uǝlƃ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
