Speaking of curation - nothing better than a radio show for me! I stream WORT out of Madison and enjoy several of their hosts enough to regularly buy CDs based on what they play.
You can explore many stations across the world here: http://radio.garden After listening you can find the station web site which probably maybe has playlists ... and archives of past shows. Curt On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:29 AM uǝlƃ ☤>$ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > Along the same lines as my comment on "gatekeeping" < > https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gatekeeping> at vFriAM, I > had an excellent conversation with a bartender on Saturday. When we got > around to discussing the purposes of music, including a debate about > moshing/dancing and how that physical activity, that kata, *interferes* [♯] > with one's music processing, he suggested I try out Sunn O))) < > https://sunn.southernlord.com/> [♭]. Along the same lines as Dave's > rendering of mysticism, the rise of predictive processing, fixed state > disorders, and audial illusions in understanding cognition, our > expectations are the overwhelming drivers for how we listen to music. > > In line with Jon, I feel anything that inhibits my access to > interestingness as claustrophobic, including any pressure to "dumb down" or > pander to those outside whatever clique I'm currently in. (E.g. I saw a > metal critic poke fun at my favorite doom with "Are they trying to go as > slow as possible?" -- If you don't grok doom ... don't listen to doom, you > moron. Go back to your speed-growl and leave us alone.) > > In line with Marcus, however, connection to the artist is obviously > important to some subset of musical purpose. This bartender has written for > 2 bands and considers himself a full member of 2 others. In promoting his > music to me, he begged off telling me about his earlier work (he's a kid, > actually ... like 25 years old pfffft), he said it was im-/pre-mature and > not very good. But, in my mind, the arc of the artist(s) is way more > important than the finished product, much the same way the compositional > arc of a single tune is more important than any one part or voice. > > On-demand streaming services debilitate both those fulcrums. On the other > hand, curation can go a long way to both expanding and homogenizing the > paths through the graph. When curation starts sounding/feeling like > promotion and marketing, I inevitably lose interest. But when the curator > authentically digs what they're curating (even if it's only to identify why > some thing is so aweful), I stay hooked. > > > [♯] By which I mean both reinforcing and inhibiting, transmission to and > from, between the source and the receiver. Maybe "mediates" is a better > word ... but I hate the way "media" is used these days. > > [♭] I'm a big fan of interactive/live noise, not so much pre-recorded > noise. > > On 8/22/21 11:46 AM, Steve Smith wrote: > > On 8/22/21 8:28 AM, ⛧ glen wrote: > >> It does both, perhaps counterintuitively. I'd argue it facilitates > traffic between demes/cliques, but inhibits the content of demes/cliques. > > > > I am a sucker for local AM radio when traveling... to put my finger on > the pulse of the locals, as it were. What music they listen to, what their > news-of-choice leans toward, and what they are buying/selling/trading with > one another. "If you can hear this station, what you hear *might* be > relevant to you *right now*" > > > > When internet radio stations started popping up (KTAO in Taos being an > early adopter), I found myself sampling these local stations around the > world... one in particular being in Australia (forget the call sign/town) > and having a strong familiarity to the myriad country AND western stations > up and down the rockies and out into the plains of the US West, but with an > Aussie accented DJ of course. Unfortunately it didn't replicate the > experience because I was patently NOT there... I could NOT plan a detour to > catch the local farmer's market or check out a local joint (where there > burgers would have pineapple and plum sauce instead of pickles and > ketchup)... But what I was most struck by was that they were playing 95% > American Mainstream (C&W) music and referencing OUR icons of music > deeply/exclusively. Only occasionally would I catch a "local" artist > (Australeonesia?) I felt simultaneously expanded and constrained. > > > > When I moved to a small city/big town on the border (DouglasAZ/Agua > Prieta SA) our first neighbors were a Mexican American family who were one > of the local bands that played every venue, mostly rock but with their own > ranchera stylization often. They would sit around evenings playing a wide > range of music, including the father, a sister and a younger brother (maybe > 5? too young to participate in the public events). We moved away from > that house within 6 months but I continued to hear them the whole 8 years I > lived in that town, they probably played at both of my proms and any other > public musical event I might have attended. What never crossed my mind > (until now) was that for the 4 years I was a Disc Jockey, I never heard > them play on air, nor was I motivated/inclined to seek them out. Why not? > Linda Ronstadt (100 miles away) was hitting it big from similar roots, why > not them? I guess because they weren't on the Billboard Top 100 charts > they sent us every month, > > telling us what was hot and what was not? They had no route to get > known beyond the local bars and public venues. > > > > Both of my daughters partnered with aspiring musicians as they came of > age. There have been several bands involved and those partners even > occasionally found time to make music together (though never recorded > together). These bands never made it beyond local recognition... "Billy > and the Belmonts", "Oktober People", "Weapons of Mass Destruction" all come > to mind. And yet one of them was going on a self-promoted tour of the > west when we were in Berkeley, CA for a year and in fact, totally by > coincidence, had gotten booked at an Irish Pub ("Starry Plough") just a > short walk from our apartment (actually probably the closest watering hole > to our apartment). It was just off Telegraph, right on the Oakland border > (as was our back fence)... in what other world (pre/sans Internet) could a > band like that find a pub like that? While Terry (daughter's now husband) > had the resources (as a Technical College instructor) to own a van, mix > their own music on Garage Band, cut > > their own CDs and print their own T-shirts (aka Merch)... They would > have been sleeping in his van the whole way (instead of being gifted > couch-stays by their nascent mySpace fan base) and would have had to make a > LOT of phone calls and snail-mail inquiries to secure the venues they were > able to do online through the digital social networks circa 2005. Their > music was out there for sampling on MySpace and while all that (the bands > as well as MySpace) are all defunct and rotting away in digital history, it > made it a lot further than I think it could have in the days of vinyl or > cassette tape. I do still have CDs of their music and it is ripped to my > hard drive as well... but can't find any of it to speak of online 8 years > after dissolution. My t-shirts are all rags now, they were made on budget > blanks I'm sure. > > > > Terry (of WMD/Belmont fame) is now the bass player for Queen Chief in > Portland OR. Their preferred streaming platform seems to be bandcamp.com > which seems to be *trying* to provide a direct route from artist to > audience, but unspurprisingly Alexa doesn't support Bandcamp and while they > also stream on Spotify, my understanding of that service is that they won't > see any significant income from that stream. I don't believe any of the > band members depends on the band for a significant source of income, Terry > certainly doesn't, though it may support his recording/instrument > collecting habits somewhat. > > > > They just released a couple of singles this year. A stoner rock > rendition of Hank William's classic "Kaw-Liga < > https://open.spotify.com/album/2U88jwoi9ZKRHjTgG1YIDu>" and their own In > my Eyes <https://open.spotify.com/album/1oaVT5IS8jIm6xpJ2RlH2o>. > > > > Spotify refers me right away to bands (I presume equally > struggling/indie) like King Black Acid, Royal Fuz, RZRS, and Hurriah. > While I like QC's lyrics and musical "style" it is all too high energy for > my old ears/soul, so I tend to listen to a new track or album a few times > when it comes out, but don't have it ripped to my car sound system nor pull > it up regularly (though In my Eyes is thumping/chanting away in the > background as I type this)... > > > > Mary's son (who edits bills for the TX legislature by day) is also a > drummer in an indie band in Austin and they eschew streaming in favor of > the (semi) classic medium of CDs and live-shows. They gently dissolved > last year after a 10 year run... the quarterly live-shows in various > dive-bars were what was keeping them going (emotionally/creatively?)... > and they also have all hit middle age. > > > > Digital/Online/Streaming has definitely changed the fitness landscape > for aspiring independent artists and for music buffs. Mary's son is a > total movie/music buff and shares his listening time between classic vinyl > and the flood of new music coming to him over his own social networks from > friends of friends of friends who are independent singer-songwriters/bands. > > > > I like Glen's gesture toward analyzing this in terms of network/graph > models... I think the data is out there for anyone to gather/study up to a > point. Josh's (Mary's son) collection of vinyl and hand-cut CDs probably > is hidden for the most part from any database, though he *might* not be > astute enough to turn off Google/Android's "what music is playing right > now" service... maybe what he listens to is being analyzed on some Google > Brat's Friday Project right now? He *hates* Alexa, Amazon, and especially > Amazon Music. > > > > It's a wild new world, even though everything feels pretty much the same > (only different). > > > -- > ☤>$ uǝlƃ > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >
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