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I feel like this relates to a discussion held during Nerd Hour at the end of last Friday’s vfriam. I was arguing that given, say, a string of numbers, and no information external to that string, that no AI could detect “order” unless it already possessed a theory of what order is. I found the discussion distressing because I thought the point was trivial but all the smart people in the conversation were arguing against me. n Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University <mailto:[email protected]> [email protected] <https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/> https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jochen Fromm Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 3:15 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] New ways of understanding the world The success of Google's deep learning program in predicting protein folding is impressive. Maybe that is what he meant. https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-03348-4 -J. -------- Original message -------- From: Steve Smith <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Date: 11/30/20 21:55 (GMT+01:00) To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] New ways of understanding the world Or a "model of nothing fit to everything we know: useful or merely wrong?" On 11/30/20 1:41 PM, Jochen Fromm wrote: Chris Anderson, the editor in chief of Wired, asks if a computer can find a theory of everything merely by learning from data. Unfortunately most deep learning models are like a black box which delivers good results but is hard to understand. Would a theory of everything be a theory of nothing? It reminds me of Russell Standish's book "theory of nothing". https://www.wired.com/2008/06/pb-theory/ -J. - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
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