There’s this..
   https://sherlock.bio/crispr-sars-cov-2/

..which isn’t at-home, but also doesn’t require an expensive machine.

Marcus

From: Friam <[email protected]> on behalf of "[email protected]" 
<[email protected]>
Reply-To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
Date: Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 1:05 PM
To: 'The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group' <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Virus Cases

Gary  I don’t know.  I think the person on the list who reads most widely is 
Glen.  Perhaps he will comment.

Nick

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/


From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Gary Schiltz
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 1:20 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Virus Cases

My question is about the knowledge, and state of the science/technology. That 
is to say, what is the state of knowledge in the medical science community to 
develop such tests? Would we be a month away? A year? More?

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 2:11 PM 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Gary,

Don’t look to the US for any inspiration on testing.  There are still parts 
where getting a test is not easy.

N

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/


From: Friam <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On 
Behalf Of Gary Schiltz
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 11:45 AM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Virus Cases

I wonder what the prospects are for Covid19 testing "entirely at home" in the 
near future? I'm thinking something like home pregnancy tests or glucose 
monitoring tests, where you don't have to send a sample away. Such a beast 
would be especially helpful in the third world, many parts of which don't have 
any kind of postal service.

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 12:17 PM Jochen Fromm 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I was asking me the same as Nick. We experience a global pandemic and I am 
living in a big city of 3.8 million inhabitants and I don't know anybody who 
really has it. I have asked our local newspaper salesman who meets a lot of 
people and he says he knows people who have it, but only have little or no 
symptoms. Our cleaning lady (which helps us cleaning our apartment) is from 
Chile, she said her whole family in Santiago has the virus because they all 
live together in very small rooms where the virus can easily spread. Both of 
her grandparents have died from it. In Berlin we have overall only 8000 
infected people, which is low compared to the overall population. Luckily.

The biggest recent SARSCoV2 outbreak in Germany was at a meat factory: low 10°C 
temperatures increase droplet formation and water condensation, no distance 
between workers and poor working conditions all contributed to the outbreak
https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-europe-53177628

In America as a whole the situation looks really concerning. Chris Hayes argues 
on MSNBC that the government has failed and Donald Trump should resign as 
president
https://youtu.be/oB4N27evVwY

-J.


-------- Original message --------
From: Frank Wimberly <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: 6/27/20 18:41 (GMT+01:00)
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nick Thompson

>I don't even know anybody, personally, who has told me that they know anybody 
>who has had the disease.

One of my high-school classmates  (a few weeks older than I) died of Covid-19 
on April 30.

On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 10:23 AM 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

David,

[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> works just fine or 
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]> .

I am really, REALLY  sorry but I don't think we should meet.  I just told my 
"pod" that I think that, with the rising cases in neighboring states, Santa Fe 
has started to get more dangerous again, and that we should we should be even 
more careful than we have been. (Rural Western Massachusetts got a lot of cases 
from "vacationing" New Yorkers in March.)   With talk of a vaccine by the 
beginning of next year, it just seems stupid to take any risks whatsoever.
It's not that long.  In the meantime, let's continue to interact 
electronically.  We could do our own zoom session.  You will point out how 
"notional" the hazard is, and I will have to admit that I actually have no 
first-hand experience with the disease, what-so-ever.  I don't even know 
anybody, personally, who has told me that they know anybody who has had the 
disease.  It is still, for me, a media event.  A cultural meme.  Pray God it 
remains that way.
So let's plan to meet "on the other side.".
You take care!
Nick

Nicholas Thompson

Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology

Clark University

[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/





-----Original Message-----
From: Friam <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> On 
Behalf Of Prof David West
Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 8:10 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [FRIAM] Nick Thompson



Nick,



Your Earthlink email address (the only other one I have) bounced. I am in Santa 
Fe for a couple of days, until July 2.



davew



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