I disagree. I think we are making claims about how best to think, if we ever hope to get anywhere.
But I can see that these might seem like "old man's arguments" and that the world of software engineering is "no place for old men." Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University [email protected] https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -----Original Message----- From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Jon Zingale Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2020 8:33 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRIAM] alternative response The preoccupation with arguing over base ontological commitments reminds me of the *existential detectives* and their nemesis in the movie *I <3 Huckabees*. Will demanding that the universe is determined, or almost as random as can be, or simulatable move any other conjectured model forward? I suspect that it has the effect of putting the discussion in a holding pattern. In each case, we are making unknown claims as to what the universe is, or at best wagering as to what we feel the universe will have turned out to be in some obnoxiously absolute way. Neutered from a motivating investigation and the development of a model, we may as well exclaim the names of numbers at one another. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
