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But, then again, anyone who combines "100% > against drugs" with the consumption of wine probably can't be trusted As the person designated in this argument to be against drugs, I have to confess to drinking an occasional glass of wine. And one bourbon eggnog at Christmas. Nobody ever claimed for alcohol that it brought me to a new reality or raised one to a higher state of understanding. I think of it as inducing a modulated and reversible little death of the mind, a quieting of the voice. Not so much an altered state, as a slowed regular state. It is evidently destructive, but sometimes a little destruction is just what one needs. Does this vitiate my puritan credentials? Yes. Almost certainly. I wouldn’t trust me either. Particularly after the bourbon. Nick Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University thompnicks...@gmail.com https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -----Original Message----- From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Prof David West Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2020 9:56 AM To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] speaking of drugs I would discount the story. MDMA is not directly toxic. People die from the side-effects - overheating (especially the brain) and dehydration. Do not take MDMA in pill form - the ingredients used to bind and cut the pure stuff can obviously be dangerous. I use pure crystals and cannot imagine any possibility that any diluted residue could add up to a dose, and if the concentrate were still in the wine it could be detected and it still wouldn't have much effect unless you had as much as half a glass. davew On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, at 5:46 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote: > Belgian woman dies after taking sip of MDMA-laced wine > <https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/belgian-woman-dies-after> > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/belgian-woman-dies-after > -taking-sip-of-mdma-laced-wine > > I've succumbed to fake news before. I can't find the article, but > there was some hype by some startup chip maker claiming some > outrageous computational speed. I fell for it. My optimism beat out my doubt. > Since that very embarrassing episode, before I ever even dreamed an > empty Celebrity like Trump would benefit from Russian disinformation > campaigns, I've been pretty suspicious of any news, especially > anything coming out of Silly Valley. > > Given that, I can't help but wonder about the above article. MDMA > isn't as safe as psilocybin or LSD. But it's relatively safe. > Transporting concentrated mdma in wine bottles seems like a risky move > for a drug trafficker. If it was concentrated enough to kill her after > only a "little sip", somebody's head should roll within the > trafficker's value chain. But, then again, anyone who combines "100% > against drugs" with the consumption of wine probably can't be trusted > to be accurate about how big a "sip" she really had. > > Of course, this is yet another reason to make your own beer/wine/cider > at your house ... thank you Jimmy Carter! Spirits are a different > thing, though. Back in PDX, a bunch of friends brought their homemade > whiskies, vodkas, and whatnot to a ping-pong party, happily trusting > each other to have done it right ... That's a big "No thank you, man" > for me. Give me the wisdom of the microbes over distillation tech any > day of the week. > > -- > ☣ uǝlƃ > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe > at St. John's College to unsubscribe > <http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com> > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/> > http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe <http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com> http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/> http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/> http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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