I would discount the story.  MDMA is not directly toxic. People die from the 
side-effects - overheating (especially the brain) and dehydration. Do not take 
MDMA in pill form - the ingredients used to bind and cut the pure stuff can 
obviously be dangerous. I use pure crystals and cannot imagine any possibility 
that any diluted residue could add up to a dose, and if the concentrate were 
still in the wine it could be detected and it still wouldn't have much effect 
unless you had as much as half a glass. 

davew


On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, at 5:46 PM, uǝlƃ ☣ wrote:
> Belgian woman dies after taking sip of MDMA-laced wine
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/27/belgian-woman-dies-after-taking-sip-of-mdma-laced-wine
> 
> I've succumbed to fake news before. I can't find the article, but there 
> was some hype by some startup chip maker claiming some outrageous 
> computational speed. I fell for it. My optimism beat out my doubt. 
> Since that very embarrassing episode, before I ever even dreamed an 
> empty Celebrity like Trump would benefit from Russian disinformation 
> campaigns, I've been pretty suspicious of any news, especially anything 
> coming out of Silly Valley.
> 
> Given that, I can't help but wonder about the above article. MDMA isn't 
> as safe as psilocybin or LSD. But it's relatively safe. Transporting 
> concentrated mdma in wine bottles seems like a risky move for a drug 
> trafficker. If it was concentrated enough to kill her after only a 
> "little sip", somebody's head should roll within the trafficker's value 
> chain. But, then again, anyone who combines "100% against drugs" with 
> the consumption of wine probably can't be trusted to be accurate about 
> how big a "sip" she really had.
> 
> Of course, this is yet another reason to make your own beer/wine/cider 
> at your house ... thank you Jimmy Carter! Spirits are a different 
> thing, though. Back in PDX, a bunch of friends brought their homemade 
> whiskies, vodkas, and whatnot to a ping-pong party, happily trusting 
> each other to have done it right ... That's a big "No thank you, man" 
> for me. Give me the wisdom of the microbes over distillation tech any 
> day of the week.
> 
> -- 
> ☣ uǝlƃ
> 
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