I was just throwing out two, the wormhole idea of Maldacena & Susskind and
super-determinism described by Hooft. They seem very different to me, and
could imply two very different universes. That QM works for either doesn't
help explain how one or the other or neither is the true explanation.
On 4/30/19, 6:02 PM, "Friam on behalf of uǝlƃ ☣" <friam-boun...@redfish.com on
behalf of geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I understand your skepticism. I even share it. But nothing you've said
validates the dichotomy you laid out before. The wizard's spell sense you get
from entanglement across 3 meters of space is a reflection of how you (yes, and
most of us) model the world. Even if it's only like 5/7e9 people that have any
intuition of how the other model(s) work(s), it's still not zero. And I suspect
it's more than 5.
A pedestrian example is in how/why/what the kids love about Instagram and
hate about Facebook ... or can listen to that gawdawful music they listen to.
They're developing intuitions us old farts will never have. What's to say it
won't also happen with QM effects? E.g. we're already (fairly) comfortable with
the way transistors work, even if most of the modeling language in which
they're used is classical. The distinction between the circuits-level language
of use versus the underlying quantum properties of materials level language of
transistor construction (again riffing off Eric's point) isn't near as crisp as
it once was.
That optimism does rely on a progressive society, though ... which looks
unlikely at this point.
On 4/30/19 4:34 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> There are more people that catch fly balls than develop theories of
physical information. I don't believe a well-funded liberal culture will
change that. Maybe in a hundred or a thousand years if we are a
reconfigurable species, a large part of the population will spend their days
experiencing and manipulating physical phenomenon as first class thing using an
extended nervous system. But as it is, the inputs are from a narrow range of
temperatures & pressures and a tiny window of electromagnetic radiation. And
cognitively, the short term workspace of a human is small and slow compared to
even a simple computer.
--
☣ uǝlƃ
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