We can apply your ... pragmatism (not pragmaticism) inherent in "what good is gut pain" to your story vs. model question, too. The significance of any thing lies in what you can *do* with it. Hence, any "taken as given", self-evident propositions will only exist as tools, just like their derived siblings. If the oracles like priests or Feynmans are understood as the tools they are, then it's relatively easy to see that all models are complete[able] stories because they imply the parts you think are missing. This is precisely the same as the assertion that a hand implies a glove.
It's not that doubt in *all* matters is impossible and reverence of some authority is necessary. It *is* that you're looking at the fossils without inferring the agency that constructed the fossils. Feynman is *used* as an oracle when the user can do something with Feynman's authority. God is used when the user can use Him. Etc. FWIW, I use my gut pain all the time. Headaches are more interesting for me, because I get these seizure-like headaches that often end in shivers and hours of puking. If they don't end that way, they go on for 3-5 days. Such headaches are, to me, spiritual experiences. I come out the other side feeling *erased*, like the fresh skin underneath a peel from a sunburn ... or how I imagine a cicada must feel after it emerges from its molting. I would never induce one of these headaches purposely. But they still seem like the serve a purpose, have a correlated "Why?" to them, etc. On 4/28/19 10:53 PM, Nick Thompson wrote: > Oh, all right. Threat of damage. I am truly puzzled by the function of > pain. I mean, pain in my ankle causes me to favor my ankle. But what good > is gut pain? Or headaches, for instance. Clearly, from an evolutionary > standpoint, the function of pain must be what it leads you to do. My heart > pain was in my elbow. What’s with that? > > Well, you say; the body can’t get everything right. But those mistakes seem > really bonehead ones. ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
