Frank - I think the quantification of "generations" is at least a little more useful than Astrology. I have a hard time believing that the specific timing of the rising of constellations has that much effect on individual constitution and personality (and fate?), though the time of year one goes through various stages of gestation (dead of winter, heat of summer) almost does. Especially before the buffers of HVAC AWD Vehicles and Supermarkets.
Your identification as a "war baby" distinguishes you from the "greatest generation" since you didn't come along until *after* the great depression and wasn't "coming of age" or "a young adult" during the war. I am technically a Boomer (1957) but feel a bit too late, and your 1964 is even later... the defining qualities of Boomers (for me) is having enjoyed the fruits of being raised during the post-war "boom", and then being defined by the Hippy moment and the Vietnam war. They cancelled draft registration just months before my 18th birthday, so while I was acutely aware of the *threat* of conscription/Vietnam and the aftermath (returning vets), my elder-boomers had a significantly different experience with all that. I was only 11 during the "Summer of Love" I think? I don't know when "X" starts technically but my own daughters (79, 80) feel like the forefront of "X". I believe Marcus might be 10+ years older than them? Definitely post-Boom, but early-early "X"? Glen also? Like "war baby" it seems like early-early Xrs are also "war babies" (Vietnam, racial/gender wars, Watergate, ???) being defined by things that were happening while they might have been too young to participate? I guess I think in half-generations (by some measure) of roughly 10 year periods... where the older members of the "next older" generation were probably more likely your parent's peers than yours and the younger peers of your older siblings, but rarely of you. The world events that shaped their childhoods, their teens, or their young adult lives were different from yours. e.g. Those who were already adults (my GenX daughters) for 9/11 had a significantly different experience than those who were still children, and very much those who were too young to remember. I was in 2nd Grade when JFK was shot and really didn't appreciate the implications of much at all except most of the adults I knew were pretty whigged out for a while. I was a late teen when Nixon came tumbling down. I helped vote Reagan in (and regretted fairly quickly and am still rattled the way I hope a lot of Trumpsters are now and decades from now), but most of the rest of my adult life feels *much* more homogenous, even though a LOT of significant events happened then also. I suppose my point is that the events of your formative years seem to be what define us, along with the generational norms of our parents (mine were older parents for their generation, so their age-peers mostly had children 10 years older than me). Ramble... - Steve On 4/16/19 12:02 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > I am a War Baby who is the father of a Baby Boomer (1964) and a Gen Y > (1991). The former serves Latin and the latter serves beauty. > > ----------------------------------- > Frank Wimberly > > My memoir: > https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly > > My scientific publications: > https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 > > Phone (505) 670-9918 > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 11:51 AM Marcus Daniels <mar...@snoutfarm.com > <mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: > > Yes. (I’m X.) > > > > *From: *Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com > <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com>> on behalf of Frank Wimberly > <wimber...@gmail.com <mailto:wimber...@gmail.com>> > *Reply-To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > <friam@redfish.com <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> > *Date: *Tuesday, April 16, 2019 at 11:49 AM > *To: *The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group > <friam@redfish.com <mailto:friam@redfish.com>> > *Subject: *Re: [FRIAM] Everything she knows... > > > > Gen Y = millennials? > > ----------------------------------- > Frank Wimberly > > My memoir: > https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly > > My scientific publications: > https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 > > Phone (505) 670-9918 > > > > On Tue, Apr 16, 2019, 11:46 AM Marcus Daniels > <mar...@snoutfarm.com <mailto:mar...@snoutfarm.com>> wrote: > > In a gig economy, I don't see how "serve" is very meaningful, > never mind "worship". > I think the Gen Y folks are right to be (supposedly) selfish > and indifferent to the needs of the organization. No one else > will look out for them in the workforce. > > On 4/16/19, 8:48 AM, "Friam on behalf of glen∈ℂ" > <friam-boun...@redfish.com <mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com> > on behalf of geprope...@gmail.com > <mailto:geprope...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Well, there are at least 2 ways I disagree: > > 1) Any ecological individual serves multiple bodies at > once, and > 2) Any one can serve different bodies at different moments. > > That we serve multiples presents a difference in degree so > that there's a threshold for the number of bodies one serves. > Those that serve many many purposes (religions, saints, jobs, > whatever) may *seem* as if they serve nobody. Similarly, > those of us who switch our affiliations on a minute-by-minute > basis, may *seem* not to serve any one body. So, if your gist > is that those who *seem* to not serve somebody are really > serving many bodies or rapidly switching affiliations, then I > agree. But if you insist on an artificial unification, then I > disagree. > > I worship Bob Dylan just about as much as I worship Bob of > the CotSG. I worship Eris just a tad more, obviously. =><= > > And the Cosmic Muffin seemed to be the same, being a gay, > Republican, Catholic, astrologer. > > On 4/16/19 1:34 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > "You've got to serve somebody." > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/> > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. > Strangelove > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe > http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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