There are a number of things that bother me about the article.

First, most (poor) people don’t need a bunch of academics to tell them that a 
higher wage is an illusion if the cost of living is astronomical.

Second, regardless of your philosophical position on affordable housing, as 
hinted at in the last paragraph of the article, if ain’t going to happen.

Third, in spite of the high cost of living people are still pouring into CA and 
NY. Why? That’s the issue of importance. My view is that it’s all about 
immigration and deferred gratification. The people coming into CA and NY are 
immigrants both from other countries and other parts of the US. They realize 
the issue of high cost of living and are willing to take on multiple jobs 
(think of Uber drivers in San Francisco), take on jobs others don’t want, 
commute long distances and live in less than ideal circumstances because of the 
opportunities not necessarily for themselves but for their children and their 
children’s children. Many of my grandparents’s generation, all of whom were 
immigrants, came to the US into far worse living conditions than they had in 
Europe. Those who weren’t willing to make those sacrifices for future 
generations stayed. That’s still true for many groups today, whether in West 
Virginia or Latin America or Eastern Europe.

The UK is great example of this. In the north there are multiple generations 
living in poverty in the same places their families have lived for generations 
while London is full of Eastern Europeans (from the EEU countries). Similar to 
the US? Housing is even more expensive there.

To take a slightly different view from Steve, a large part of the migration to 
CA, especially after WWII, was to the opportunities offered by free education. 
For example, my ex-wifes’s family came to CA from Iowa then with six kids, all 
of whom got college degrees from the California colleges. Wouldn’t have 
happened if they stayed in Iowa. 

Yes, things have changed a lot and the present generation often does not have 
the opportunities mine did. But the solution is not affordable housing. It has 
to be centered around free education and support for people whose jobs have 
disappeared.

Santa Fe is in a somewhat different situation is that unlike CA and NY there 
are very few jobs available regardless of your educational level. Affordable 
housing won’t fix that although it may help keep police, firemen and teachers 
here. But unless, SF and NM in general does something about education in the 
state, things are unlikely to get better.

Ed
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> On Oct 13, 2017, at 2:54 PM, Tom Johnson <t...@jtjohnson.com> wrote:
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> Pertinent to this morning's discussion.
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> The Barriers Stopping Poor People From Moving to Better Jobs
> https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/10/geographic-mobility-and-housing/542439/
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> <https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/10/geographic-mobility-and-housing/542439/>
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