p.s. I showed my wife, who was a therapist and mental health counselor for many years, a bit of this discussion she says that you are correct, Glen, in that you can't be a NPD sufferer without being insecure. Their behavior is symptomatic of this. "I know more about ISIS than the Generals! Believe me!" He couldn't possible believe that.
Frank Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz Santa Fe, NM 87505 wimber...@gmail.com wimbe...@cal.berkeley.edu Phone: (505) 995-8715 Cell: (505) 670-9918 -----Original Message----- From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of glen ? Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:00 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Globalism in the age of populism? .. & Open Source Software No. It seemed to me that you quit the conversation. Of course, I can't be sure you got my last message. But I left off challenging the (especially remote) diagnosis of NPD as purely phenomenological (type 2). And given Nick's idea that recursive explanations are fundamentally different from flat ones, I also provided a rather detailed challenge to that. So, it seems to me that Trump's learned behavior (pre military school, but by some accounts even in college) may easily be a consequence of learning how to _deal_ with his introverted nature, especially in the context of an overbearing father. The primary aspect of what I see about Trump is that he's compensating for deep insecurities. Perhaps deep insecurities can percolate out to exhibit as introvertedness or narcissism, especially since the entire process of diagnosis is solely phenomenological. But I readily admit my ignorance and would love to learn how I'm wrong. On 01/27/2017 01:43 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > Sorry, but Trump is not an introvert. It's true that introversion can be > caused by extrovert-like impulses. But Trump is a narcissist. I thought I > had sent enough evidence. -- ☣ glen ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
