The ruling classes were just plain tone-deaf. Our bad. I'm a post-capitalist revolutionary Canadian College professor and activist working hard to prevent this country from slipping further into economic oligarchy, but I have a sneaking suspicion that Trump will surprise us in some nifty ways because he's just dumb enough to accidentally, occasionally, do the right thing.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 3:14 PM, Pamela McCorduck <pam...@well.com> wrote: > I found the article just silly. Yes, the comparison between Thinking Fast > and Thinking Slow is apt. Maybe we should call the Trumpists “trigger > finger voters” and the Clinton voters, “think before you pull the trigger” > voters. > > Also apt, to this student (and survivor) of WW II are the parallels > between what Trump has said, and what the rising Hitler said, and how their > followers behaved as a consequence. I took particular issue with “the > ripping of the social fabric by immigration”—especially since my family and > I, and my husband and his family, were immigrants. > > A visit to the Jerusalem show at the Metropolitan Museum of Art tells you > how Jerusalem at its height (1100-1500) was one of the great cities of the > world, because it was deeply and widely multicultural (yes, the three major > religions, but dozens of sects in each of them). Shut down the immigrants > and the merchants go away. Drive the merchants away and the place begins to > decline. > > Am I elite? You bet. I worked my ass off in college—I put myself through a > first-rate university, worked in a low-paying clerical job for a few more > years (because that was the only job path open to women, no matter how well > educated they were), then went to an Ivy graduate school. I earned my elite > status, and I was very lucky in the bargain. > > I vote for school bonds that no children of mine will ever need, because I > think it’s for the greater good. I pay extra taxes to support Medicare, and > I do it willingly, though I would much rather see not a reform of Medicare, > but a reform of the entire medical system. > > But hey, we have a real-time experiment coming up. Let’s just see how much > better the country is under a Trump executive and a Republican Congress. > > > > > On Dec 1, 2016, at 12:12 PM, Eric Charles <eric.phillip.char...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Glen, > The style matters. Oddly quite a bit. "Liberal elitism" is snobbish, > aloof, and patronizing. Note, it is not the way in which they are "elite", > but the "elitism" that rankles the most. Trump's financial-elite > bull-in-a-china-shop > schtick looks and feels very different, and there are many people who would > much rather deal with it. Bill Clinton was a friggin' Rhodes scholar, but > connected with everyday Americans, and wasn't, until he sought to get so > aggressively dynastic, at risk of the "liberal elite" label. I've not heard > it leveled at Carter either. On the other hand, Gore and Kerry reeked of > it, and that was part of their problem. > > As the article says towards the end: > " “High information” people ignore evidence if it conflicts with their > preferred narrative *all the time.* And while it may be naïve for voters > to believe the promises of Trump and the Brexit campaigners — it has also > been profoundly naïve for the cosmopolitan classes to believe that years of > forced internationalism and forced political correctness were never going > to end with a large scale backlash." > > > > > ----------- > Eric P. Charles, Ph.D. > Supervisory Survey Statistician > U.S. Marine Corps > <echar...@american.edu> > > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 1:22 PM, ┣glen┫ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> On 12/01/2016 10:11 AM, cody dooderson wrote: >> > Sorry, but I found the first article very disturbing. It seems like an >> opinion piece that might have come out during the rise of the Nazi party. >> It blames the 'parasitic educated' class, praises the virtues of the >> military service, and argues in favor racial segregation. >> > My very shallow reading on the rise of the Nazi party led me to believe >> that they had a very similar platform. >> >> +1 >> >> On a slight tangent: I'm still confused about why so many feel compelled >> to prefix "elite" with "liberal". If this were really about anti-elitism, >> we'd see just as much silly spewage toward buffoons like Trump (who just >> knows better -- trust him -- he's the only one who can make america great >> again). Despite my confusion, I'm inclined to believe it's because only >> really lazy people yap incoherently about "elitism." The rest of us work >> our butts off to specialize ... elite machinists, elite cowboys, elite bow >> hunters, elite beer drinkers ... I am an elite. But I'm not a liberal. >> So, the bias(es) inherent in articles like this are blatantly obvious. >> >> >> > On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:27 AM, Owen Densmore <o...@backspaces.net >> <mailto:o...@backspaces.net>> wrote: >> > >> > I love it. The Elites are getting hammered. Snobocracy is now so >> visible that it can be attacked for what it really is. >> > >> > http://quillette.com/2016/11/30/stop-calling-people-low-inf >> ormation-voters/ <http://quillette.com/2016/11/ >> 30/stop-calling-people-low-information-voters/> >> > >> > This was also referred to by this: >> > http://quillette.com/2016/11/14/cut-out-the-literally-hitle >> r-hysteria/ <http://quillette.com/2016/11/14/cut-out-the-literally-hitle >> r-hysteria/> >> > >> > I love a good rant! Liberal Elites lost the election. 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