Speaking to the larger issues, I only change my behavior under parallax, when I see 
multiple, seemingly disparate lines of reasoning converging.  For the climate, it's my 
natural dislike of crowds combined with myopic thinking and the "leave only 
footprints" ethic.  For meat, it was a convergence of its cost (in resources) to 
raise, animal abuse/exploitation, the practices/consequences of industrial meat, and the 
prevalence of fast food (including the way I feel after eating it and an irrational 
association of fast food with obesity).  The cancer and heart disease studies have no 
impact on my behavior, at least so far.

Supplements are an interesting case for me.  I experiment with all sorts of them, usually 
for very short periods of time.  I'm not very methodical about it.  But I've played 
around with tryptophan, melatonin, probiotics, milk thistle, amino acids, trace minerals, 
[in]soluble fiber, etc., including, of course various broad vitamins.  They all have 
interesting effects ... well, except the milk thistle... I've never observed any effects 
of that.  But I get the same restful sleep with tryptophan as I do after 
"smoking" a cigar. (I haven't smoked a cigar in a looong time, though.)  
Melatonin does seem to reduce the recovery time from jet lag.  Etc.  Now, what it would 
take to get me to, say, take a daily vitamin for more than a week or two?  I have no 
idea.  Nothing, probably.  The vitamins helped during chemo.  But otherwise, they're 
mostly useless to me.



On 10/28/2015 06:15 AM, John Kennison wrote:
I think my real reasons are that I like meat, and I think that being a 
vegetarian would be inconvenient. I do respond to cancer studies, so I try to 
eat salads and broccoli  and fruits and other vegetables. Also, I have largely 
(but not at all completely) given up red meat. The latest studies will make me 
less likely to go to a Subway for a processed Turkey sandwich. But I have 
already entertained the thought that the studies are probably flawed because 
people who lots of processed meats will include a disproportionately high 
number who do not eat very well--I haven’t, of course, checked to see whether 
the studies control for this possibility.

On 10/27/2015 10:06 PM, Nick Thompson wrote:> Dear Friam members,

I am more
interested in the process by which each of you will decide whether or not to
change your habits on the basis of this new evidence, or try to change the
habits of your children or grandchildren.  In what sense will that process
be "reasonable?"

--
⇔ glen

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