Great throwdown on all points Glen -

Of course, I tend toward the opposite. I enjoy describing things in unnatural languages, which makes me an enemy of all 3 types. p.s. That also means, that I am maximally offensive to Nick ... All Dionysians should claim their works are Apollonian and vice versa ... it's good to use unnatural languages.


Speaking of unnatural languages, this just in, in response from someone off-list but maybe apropos to some if not many in this group:

What represents a responsible, enlightened balance between
​​
Faber
, Sapiens and Ludens

Hmmmm ... will take these cranky neurons a while to cogicate (as in masticate) this.
But I think I may have stumbled on a perfect intersection of ​
Faber, Sapiens and Ludens:
What would a Turing-complete programming language with only 8 commands look like?
Here is the mandatory "Hello World!" code for one such folly aptly named Brainfuck:

++++++++[>++++[>++>+++>+++>+<<<<-]>+>+>->>+[<]<-]>>.>---.+++++++..+++.>>.<-.<.+++.------.--------.>>+.>++.

if you are still curious here is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brainfuck

and a source archive  http://esoteric.sange.fi/brainfuck/bf-source/prog/
​r.​
(which can be written  +++++++[>+++++[>+++>+<<-]>+>+[<]<-]>>.>. )  -- I think


And  a minor correction... I don't do any of this on a "flat screen", I am fully embodied in a synthetic sensorium where all of this is just part of a huge and wonderful landscape I inhabit... as I was "writing" those words, I was simultaneously wobbling down the dirt road to my house on my 30 year old mountain bike, jamming gears and cursing the goathead-encrusted tires slowly sinking into the earth... why just live one life when you can superpose many at once?   It makes for runon sentences and fragmented thinking, but otherwise quite enjoyable.  And what is this thing you refer to as a "weekend"?   Strange concept... must investigate it! <grin>

Now to see if I can translate that all into "Brainfuck"

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