Alan Costall, by way of Eric Charles Sez:
/naive realism leads to physics, and that physics undercuts naive
realism, leaving the whole thing a big mess
/
It's a bit wordy for a Zen Koan but I think he's on the right track!
One things many philosophers might point out in response to such an
assertion, is that we don't have a very good handle on the notion of
"determined'. In fact, there are quite a few big-named dead white
guys, who would say that physical causality and mental causality are
equally illusory (and by that, I mean, completely illusory). Thus, one
of the BIG challenges for a realist philosophy is articulating a
theory of causality. It is not nearly as simple as basic physics, with
its naive realism, might make you think.
In the last real chapter of my up-coming book on Holt (Nick circulated
his chapter a little bit ago), Alan Costall argues (among other
things) that naive realism leads to physics, and that physics
undercuts naive realism, leaving the whole thing a big mess.
Eric
On Sun, Jun 5, 2011 04:30 PM, *Marcos <stalkingt...@gmail.com>* wrote:
Not to mention, the white elephant in the room (which I brought up
to Murray Gell-Mann to no avail), the relationship of
consciousness to matter, and by implication: physics. To say
consciousness is only a emergent property of matter, is to say
that we're all deterministic robots, however transient within the
view of cosmological history.
That position, for me, is no longer tenable.
mark
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