On Feb 13, 2010, at 3:43 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote:

> Sheesh, what a bunch of academic phraseology!
>       • functional modularization 
>       • combinatorial evolution
>       • both "top-down" as well as "bottom-up" initiative [...] indispensable
> IM(Not So)HO,  America at large has been sufficiently dumbed down by the 
> brutal combination of a mediocre educational system, an academic peer review 
> system that rigidly refuses to think outside the box, pay-for-play politics, 
> fundamentalist christian & christian wannabe religions, McDonalds 
> lardburgers, and short-sighted Wall Street quants that innovation is now 
> solidly a thing of the past, and will probably remain so for a very long time.
> 
> --Doug

Actually, we said approximately the same thing, or rather your list included a 
small subset of the things I was trying to cover with my academic phraseology.
No question that your phraseology is much more colorful! Not so easy to model 
however.

I only chimed in (and subscribed) because I'm trying to model some related 
problems in my own field.
I saw the terms "modeling" and "applied complexity" on the group page -- but 
perhaps I misinterpreted the sense in which one or more of those terms is being 
used...

In any case, please excuse the intrusion.

TV


> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 12:47 PM, Tom Vest <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> On Feb 13, 2010, at 8:21 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:
> 
> > In a recent washingtonpost.com article named
> > "Erasing our innovation deficit" ( http://bit.ly/cG6vGW )
> > Eric Schmidt said
> >
> > "We have been world leaders in [technological] innovation for generations. 
> > It has driven our economy, employment growth and our rising prosperity.
> > [..] We can no longer rely on the top-down approach of the 20th century, 
> > when big investments in the military and NASA spun off to the wider 
> > economy."
> >
> > Do you agree? What kind of approach does the
> > USA need to return to old strength?
> >
> > -J.
> 
> I'm surprised that none of the current/former SFIers on the list have 
> mentioned Brian Arthur's recent pitch for "combinatorial evolution" as the 
> engine of innovation.
> As I read it, Brian's argument is that innovation is an epiphenomenon arising 
> from:
> 
> -- the functional modularization of many different kinds of technologies*, 
> plus
> -- the standardization of "open" interfaces enabling those functional 
> components or modules to be combined in different ways, plus
> -- an environment that enables and incentivizes widespread experimental 
> combination of different technologies, e.g., by occasionally rewarding those 
> who come up with novel, useful combinations.
> 
> *These could be of the "hard" or "soft" variety, e.g., chip design or 
> double-entry bookkeeping.
> 
> So, on this account it would seem that both "top-down" as well as "bottom-up" 
> initiative is indispensable.
> Bottom-up activities are the proximate cause and primary engine driving 
> innovation.
> However, the size of that engine (e.g., the share of the total population 
> capable of participating constrictively in the combinatorial search) depends 
> substantially on the existence, scope, and openness/interoperability of those 
> modules and the standardized interfaces between them. Unfortunately, by their 
> very definition "standards" are a top-down phenomenon -- both because they 
> are never adopted with unanimous consent (but must be appx. universally 
> binding with a domain in order to work in that domain), and because they must 
> remain relatively stable over time, which means that for everyone that comes 
> along after the moment of standardization, they may feel like an "unjust," 
> arbitrary imposition.
> 
> In 2002, a quartet of prominent Internet standards developers published a 
> paper called "Tussle in Cyberspace" (link below), which made a broadly 
> similar argument about how the Internet has evolved. However, while 
> mechanisms that the Tussle authors describe are broadly similar, the tone 
> seems quite different, to me at least. The earlier paper seemed to be 
> (obliquely) engaging a topical issues that was just emerging around that time 
> -- i.e., the aspirations of some dominant Internet service providers to 
> subtly alter and/or partially vacate some of the standards that make the 
> Internet "open" and thus had fostered the Internet's rapid growth up to that 
> time (note: today the issue is most commonly called "net neutrality"). In 
> that context, the Tussle paper seems to lean ever so slightly past the domain 
> of observation and Darwinian theory construction, in the general direction of 
> advocating the tussle process and the embrace of whatever outcomes it yields, 
> ala "social darwinism."
> 
> In any case, I think that any present US deficit in innovation can probably 
> be chalked up, at least in part, to the ongoing progressive deviation from 
> our most recent moment of optimal balance between those "top down" and 
> "bottom up" forces. Some of the biggest recent winners in the innovation game 
> -- i.e., those who benefited most from the latest round of technical 
> standardization -- have started exert their own top-down authority in ways 
> that advance their own private interests, but which collaterally degrade the 
> environment for future/distributed innovation...
> 
> (The question resonates for me because of the looming inflection point in 
> Internet protocol standards associated with the depletion of the IPv4 address 
> pool, which happens to be the stuff of my day job)
> 
> My own 0.02, +/-
> 
> Tom Vest
> 
> "Tussle in Cyberspace: Defining Tomorrow’s Internet"
> http://groups.csail.mit.edu/ana/Publications/PubPDFs/Tussle2002.pdf
> 
> 
> 
> 
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