External Email - Use Caution I found in the source code about the use of fwhm. It decides the number of iterations to achieve a gaussian filter with the specified fwhm in mm
Best, Jiaen Sent with my mobile device ________________________________ From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Jiaen Liu <jiaen....@utsouthwestern.edu> Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 3:58:18 PM To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] surface-based filtering External Email - Use Caution I thought N controls the number of smoothing iterations and the smoothing in each iteration is defined by fwhm which is some measurement of the smoothing kernel width. Can I ask how to achieve smoothing effect similar to gaussian smoothing with certain sigma, where sigma is defined by voxel unit? Thanks! Best Jiaen From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> On Behalf Of Fischl, Bruce R.,PHD Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 15:50 To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] surface-based filtering Hi Jiaen I’m not sure what you mean by “stacked smoothing”. I think the N in nsmooth is the number of iterations of nearest neighbor smoothing to apply, which converges to Gaussian as N gets bigger. Not sure about the units for fwhm – I defer to Doug on that Bruce From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> On Behalf Of Jiaen Liu Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 4:41 PM To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] surface-based filtering External Email - Use Caution Hi Bruce Thanks for your response. In the help, I found the following options. Is the fwhm based on voxel unit? Does nsmooth-in or-out control the number of stacked smoothing? --fwhm-src fwhmsrc: smooth the source to fwhmsrc --fwhm-trg fwhmtrg: smooth the target to fwhmtrg --nsmooth-in N : smooth the input --nsmooth-out N : smooth the output Best Jiaen From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> On Behalf Of Fischl, Bruce R.,PHD Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 14:24 To: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] surface-based filtering EXTERNAL MAIL Yes, we support surface-based smoothing. Check out the help for mri_surf2surf Cheers Bruce From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>> On Behalf Of Jiaen Liu Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2024 2:14 PM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: [Freesurfer] surface-based filtering External Email - Use Caution I’m wondering if freesurfer provides functions to filter the surface data within certain neighborhood exclusively on the surface. It’s essentially similar to regular smoothing in 3D space. But the filtering kernel only runs on the surface. I can think of a solution to filter adjacent vertex in the surface file. But I’m not sure if the adjacent vertex is also close in space. Thanks! 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