Dear Eugenio,

 

Many thanks for your quick reply and clarification! We have uploaded example
participants here:

 

 
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Best regards,

Katharina

 

 

 

 

Von: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
[mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Im Auftrag von Iglesias
Gonzalez, Juan E.
Gesendet: Montag, 26. Februar 2024 16:26
An: Freesurfer support list <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
Cc: Jarrett, Chelsea <chelsea.jarr...@tu-dresden.de>; Ruge, Hannes
<hannes.r...@tu-dresden.de>
Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] Too large volumes thalamus segmentation in version
7.2

 

Dear Katharina,

First of all, and to avoid any confusion, the bug only affected the script
to gather the volumes from different subjects ("quantifyThalamicNuclei.sh"),
and not the segmentations themselves.

Would you mind sharing some images, showing how/where the LGN is
oversegmented, please? It would be very helpful to better understand the
problem.

Kind regards,

/Eugenio

 

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Juan Eugenio Iglesias

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From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
<freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> > on behalf of Katharina von
Kriegstein <katharina.von_kriegst...@tu-dresden.de
<mailto:katharina.von_kriegst...@tu-dresden.de> >
Date: Monday, February 26, 2024 at 5:16 AM
To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu>
<freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> >
Cc: Chelsea Jarrett <chelsea.jarr...@tu-dresden.de
<mailto:chelsea.jarr...@tu-dresden.de> >, Hannes Ruge
<hannes.r...@tu-dresden.de <mailto:hannes.r...@tu-dresden.de> >
Subject: [Freesurfer] Too large volumes thalamus segmentation in version 7.2

Dear List,

We are using the thalamic segmentation and have encountered too large nuclei
volumes. We are aware of the bug in previous Freesurfer versions reported
here 
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2Ffswiki%2FThalamicNuclei . In version 7.2 this bug is
fixed.

Does someone else have similar difficulties with too large volumes? For
example, our LGN is 259 mm3 (left) and 304 mm3 (right), while in the
original paper for the thalamus segmentation (Iglesias et al. 2018), it is
124 mm3, which is close to the size reported by histological studies. 

Thanks for reading!
Katharina

_ _ 

Katharina von Kriegstein 

Professor of Cognitive and Clinical Neuroscience
Vice-Dean Faculty of Psychology

TUD Dresden University of Technology 
Chemnitzer Str. 48b, 01187 Dresden

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