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Dear Douglas N. Greve,

I see. Thank you!

Kind Regards,
Andy (Junghyun) Kim
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Which motion correction parameters are used in FSFAST?

The regressors have been demeaned; other than that, they should be the same.

On 3/31/2023 6:59 PM, Andy Kim wrote:

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Dear Douglas N. Greve,

But the 3 additional columns in X.mat file (which is result of -mcextreg option 
in mkanalysis-sess command) are not the first 3 columns of mcprextreg file. 
They are totally different numbers. You are saying they (3 additional columns 
in X.mat file and the first 3 columns of mcprextreg file) should be the same, 
right? Or am I misunderstanding what you're saying?

Kind Regards,
Andy (Junghyun) Kim
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Which motion correction parameters are used in FSFAST?

They should be the first 3 columns of mcprextreg.dat which are the first 3 PCA 
components I mentioned below. The actual motion correction parameters are in 
the .mcdat file

On 3/30/2023 11:39 PM, Andy Kim wrote:

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Dear Douglas N. Greve,

Thank you. I followed your advice and re-ran the codes with -mcextreg. Now 
there are 3 more columns in X.mat for each run. I assume those 3 additional 
columns are motion correction parameters.

But what are they? Where do they come from? I couldn't find the same numbers in 
the mcprextreg files. I'm sorry to bother you, but I don't want to use data 
that I totally don't have idea. Please help. Thank you.

Kind Regards,
Andy (Junghyun) Kim
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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Which motion correction parameters are used in FSFAST?

you did not specify to include any motion correction regressors in the design. 
If that is what you want, then include -mcextreg

On 3/29/2023 11:29 PM, Andy Kim wrote:

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Dear Douglas N. Greve,

My experiment design is block design with 2 conditions.

Here is the mkanalysis command line:
mkanalysis-sess -fsd main -stc siemens \
-surface fsaverage lh -fwhm 0 -event-related -paradigm GLonset.par \
-nconditions 2 -spmhrf 0 -TR 2 -refeventdur 48 -nskip 0 -polyfit 3 \
-analysis GLanalysis01.lh -per-run -force

In addition, I attached the paradigm file, mcprextreg, and X.mat.

I want to know motion correction parameters used as nuisance regressors in 
FSFAST analysis. I appreciate your help.

Kind regards,
Andy (Junghyun) Kim

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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Which motion correction parameters are used in FSFAST?

These are not the basic translations and rotations, rather:
mcprextreg - text file of the motion correction parameters assembled into an 
orthogonalized matrix that can be used as nuisance regressors

I don't know what your design is, please send your mkanalysis command lie

On 3/29/2023 12:45 AM, Andy Kim wrote:

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Dear FreeSurfer Developer,

Hi. Thanks to FreeSurfer, I could perform surface-based activation analysis 
with FSFAST. Now I want to do surface-based functional connectivity analysis. 
For the sake of consistency, I want to use the same nuisance regressors as used 
in FSFAST. Unfortunately I'm stuck in motion correction parameters.

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regressors in FSFAST?

Thanks in advance.

Kind regards,
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