External Email - Use Caution This was part of an independent ASL pipeline called ExploreASL.
I do not know 100% the details, but in short the orig.mgz was converted to a .nii through mri_convert for CAT12 and was registered to some native space, the deformation field was saved into some y_T1.nii (SPM). The ASL map was likewise registered to this native space. I used SPM to revert the ASL map to the original T1 space (which works) using the y_T1.nii. Some intermediate reslicing steps were done as well to get it to a certain dimension. I will get back to you with further details as I inquire Is this something that has an easy fix? Victor Zeng Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center Keshavan Lab -- ________________________________ From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Douglas N. Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2022 3:38 PM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: [External] Re: [Freesurfer] [External] Re: Reversing mri_convert The ASL has a different vox2ras transform. How did you register the ASL to the anatoical? How did you convert the ASL to the anatomical space? On 5/6/2022 4:47 PM, Zeng, Victor (BIDMC - Keshavan - Psychiatry) wrote: External Email - Use Caution The output for the orig.mgz is: Volume information for orig.mgz type: MGH dimensions: 256 x 256 x 256 voxel sizes: 1.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000 type: UCHAR (0) fov: 256.000 dof: 0 xstart: -128.0, xend: 128.0 ystart: -128.0, yend: 128.0 zstart: -128.0, zend: 128.0 TR: 7.00 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle: 0.00 degrees nframes: 1 PhEncDir: UNKNOWN FieldStrength: 0.000000 ras xform present xform info: x_r = -1.0000, y_r = 0.0000, z_r = 0.0000, c_r = 2.6149 : x_a = 0.0000, y_a = 0.0000, z_a = 1.0000, c_a = 18.2086 : x_s = 0.0000, y_s = -1.0000, z_s = 0.0000, c_s = 4.6564 talairach xfm : /home/victor/Processing/Finished_dev2019/25570_S4131FQU_SENSE/mri/transforms/talairach.xfm Orientation : LIA Primary Slice Direction: coronal voxel to ras transform: -1.0000 0.0000 0.0000 130.6149 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000 -109.7914 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 132.6564 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000 voxel-to-ras determinant -1 ras to voxel transform: -1.0000 0.0000 -0.0000 130.6149 -0.0000 -0.0000 -1.0000 132.6564 0.0000 1.0000 0.0000 109.7914 -0.0000 -0.0000 -0.0000 1.0000 I use mri_convert to create a .nii. I have an ASL image that is registered exactly like it. Here is the output for the asl nifti. Volume information for test.nii.gz type: nii dimensions: 256 x 256 x 256 voxel sizes: 1.000000, 1.000000, 1.000000 type: FLOAT (3) fov: 256.000 dof: 0 xstart: -128.0, xend: 128.0 ystart: -128.0, yend: 128.0 zstart: -128.0, zend: 128.0 TR: 9345.59 msec, TE: 0.00 msec, TI: 0.00 msec, flip angle: 0.00 degrees nframes: 1 PhEncDir: UNKNOWN FieldStrength: 0.000000 ras xform present xform info: x_r = -0.9990, y_r = 0.0435, z_r = -0.0046, c_r = 1.8094 : x_a = -0.0217, y_a = -0.4021, z_a = 0.9153, c_a = -11.3674 : x_s = -0.0379, y_s = -0.9145, z_s = -0.4027, c_s = -9.1954 Orientation : LIA Primary Slice Direction: coronal voxel to ras transform: -0.9990 0.0435 -0.0046 124.7114 -0.0217 -0.4021 0.9153 -74.2729 -0.0379 -0.9145 -0.4027 164.2693 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 1.0000 voxel-to-ras determinant -1 ras to voxel transform: -0.9990 -0.0217 -0.0379 129.2118 0.0435 -0.4021 -0.9145 114.9404 -0.0046 0.9153 -0.4027 134.7101 -0.0000 -0.0000 -0.0000 1.0000 Transforming the test.nii.gz into a mgz loses its registration to do the orig.mgz. Victor Zeng Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center Keshavan Lab -- ________________________________ From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Douglas N. Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2022 4:36 PM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: [External] Re: [Freesurfer] Reversing mri_convert What does "isn't displaying the same i/j/k ras" mean? In what tool? What is the result of running mri_info on each volume? On 5/5/2022 4:54 AM, Zeng, Victor (BIDMC - Keshavan - Psychiatry) wrote: External Email - Use Caution For some reason it isn't displaying the same i/j/k ras. The T1 and the registered image (ASL) is in the same dimension/voxel sizes. The TR is different at 7ms (T1) vs ~9000ms (ASL). When I try mri_convert -tr 7 asl.nii asl.mgz, it doesn't change the incorrect i/j/k ras matrix Victor Zeng Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center Keshavan Lab -- ________________________________ From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of falk.luesebr...@med.ovgu.de<mailto:falk.luesebr...@med.ovgu.de> <falk.luesebr...@med.ovgu.de><mailto:falk.luesebr...@med.ovgu.de> Sent: Thursday, May 5, 2022 4:17 AM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: [External] Re: [Freesurfer] Reversing mri_convert External Email - Use Caution Hi Victor, in case you used mri_convert like this only, there is no change in orientation or spacing between orig.mgz and T1.nii. So, whatever you registered to the T1.nii should also be in space of the orig.mgz. Best, Falk ............................................... 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Mai 2022 10:09:26 An: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Betreff: [Freesurfer] Reversing mri_convert External Email - Use Caution Hi, I convert orig.mgz -> T1.nii using mri_convert orig.mgz T1.nii I now have something registered to the T1.nii and would like to move it back to Freesurfer space. How would you go about doing that? I am assuming I would do the inverse of the mri_convert, but I can't seem to find the option to write the matrix. 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