External Email - Use Caution Maybe for post-processing in case you have multi frames, you can merge all of them (multi-echo MPRages) and then take the RMS to get one 3D volume. Ahmed
Ahmed A. Bahrani, Ph.D., Sanders-Brown Center on Aging University of Kentucky ________________________________ From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Douglas N. Greve <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu> Sent: Tuesday, August 3, 2021 9:26 AM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu <freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] ERROR- input(s) cannot have multiple frames on Recon-all CAUTION: External Sender But do you know why it has multiple frames? We collect multi-echo T1 MPRAGEs that will have multiple frames. We then reduce it to one frame by computing the RMS across frames (actually the scanner can output a separate RMS series). Check to see whether you got an RMS series in their. If not, check with whoever collected the data to find out why it has multiple frames. On 8/2/2021 4:08 PM, Frank Chau wrote: External Email - Use Caution Dear Bruce, I have briefly read a article about multiple frames DICOM. As my understanding, it can reduce the amount of data repetition and decreases the time required to read and parse DICOM studies. Yes, I want to use T1-weighted series as input. I have converted a DICOM series, which the name of the series is "SAG T1 MPRAGE (INC UPPERCX AS MUCH)", to Nifti format. When I input the Nifti T1 file. The multiple frames error occurred. Below are log record: --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PFCs-MacBook-Pro:T1 PFC$ recon-all -all -i 101.nii -s 101 Subject Stamp: freesurfer-Darwin-OSX-stable-pub-v6.0.0-2beb96c Current Stamp: freesurfer-Darwin-OSX-stable-pub-v6.0.0-2beb96c INFO: SUBJECTS_DIR is /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1 Actual FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/freesurfer Darwin PFCs-MacBook-Pro.local 18.7.0 Darwin Kernel Version 18.7.0: Mon May 3 20:41:19 PDT 2021; root:xnu-4903.278.68~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64 /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101 \n mri_convert /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101.nii /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101/mri/orig/001.mgz \n mri_convert.bin /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101.nii /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101/mri/orig/001.mgz $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.226 2016/02/26 16:15:24 mreuter Exp $ reading from /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101.nii... TR=7.24, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00 i_ras = (0.135649, -0.98975, -0.0446586) j_ras = (0.0870012, -0.0330015, 0.995661) k_ras = (0.98693, 0.138946, -0.0816328) writing to /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101/mri/orig/001.mgz... #-------------------------------------------- #@# MotionCor Sat Jul 31 18:01:46 HKT 2021 Found 1 runs /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101/mri/orig/001.mgz Checking for (invalid) multi-frame inputs... ERROR: input(s) cannot have multiple frames! /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101/mri/orig/001.mgz has 2 frames Darwin PFCs-MacBook-Pro.local 18.7.0 Darwin Kernel Version 18.7.0: Mon May 3 20:41:19 PDT 2021; root:xnu-4903.278.68~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64 recon-all -s 101 exited with ERRORS at Sat Jul 31 18:01:48 HKT 2021 For more details, see the log file /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101/scripts/recon-all.log To report a problem, see http://secure-web.cisco.com/1ARLUAXWFpvPqkvHHhdhgZfwGYwa-W5rxZHYll2077_CtHzn4d_6hBEuO3ZWQUgAnSWkO3E9qzZZrIqyej4JAVVzPdvW5iOXjGRRWYGeANpAodjc6jG79stflXvsXT0OWMDmWIK1qL8676vNOKc8DrBgJqGtoXjvaIzozG4leYit5HqAj76nrWbnaLM3kJ_XJTNpecG5pBVwUMGmmj98fZpiSF3Wjz68CZkKEF0JxVVxtM22nXj1Rm5azd8Pm4PvLBoKpZq5o2rIY2ExdmXof5g/http%3A%2F%2Fsurfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%2Ffswiki%2FBugReporting<https://secure-web.cisco.com/1H2C0UAM0EUoMNQV-mYoPKmXHPmnOQCgc8hmUpDAb4Tewgx2uA6bLIHyXM85tjLc1G5g3LQweJpn121jzCWWpgUVmIhVjZYAJEsMSQWkeYtg8r8y0XbVVoSTQKz7k9U-Uu8BVuYpSUAIhLXQlQxH_xTY1uIoi49a0WFi77_bmaThL844CMg9YP7PzqCRNM1TcZGAR1ioVHIFPgKTeUnaaAFQvVKIk9TZDfNYn3k5KkEfxCiTmB1CRiD0ll8IZg0ZSuaV9JZmUbeTiKNpKUaxrsw/https%3A%2F%2Fnam04.safelinks.protection.outlook.com%2F%3Furl%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fsurfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu%252Ffswiki%252FBugReporting%26data%3D04%257C01%257Cahmed.bahrani%2540uky.edu%257C69866f35c2194c96813f08d9568258f4%257C2b30530b69b64457b818481cb53d42ae%257C0%257C0%257C637635940099926429%257CUnknown%257CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%253D%257C1000%26sdata%3DFQ0AeEcwfJ%252BQfRxZvUuwN3i0P9%252BpiYV9R47tqV5hU%252Fw%253D%26reserved%3D0> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Regards Frank ________________________________ From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Fischl, Bruce <bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:bfis...@mgh.harvard.edu> Sent: 03 August 2021 03:56:31 To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Cc: Jacky Lee; Jacky LEE Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] ERROR- input(s) cannot have multiple frames on Recon-all Hi Frank Do you know why there are multiple frames? What kind of MRI acquisition are you trying to use as input? Most standard T1-weighted series only have a single frame Bruce From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu><mailto:freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> On Behalf Of Frank Chau Sent: Monday, August 2, 2021 3:49 PM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu<mailto:freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Cc: Jacky Lee <cyle...@gmail.com><mailto:cyle...@gmail.com>; Jacky LEE <lcy...@ha.org.hk><mailto:lcy...@ha.org.hk> Subject: [Freesurfer] ERROR- input(s) cannot have multiple frames on Recon-all External Email - Use Caution Dear Freesurfer experts, I tried to run Recon-all on a T1 series .nii file. A error occurred: "ERROR: input(s) cannot have multiple frames!". I tried to google the method of converting multi frame dicom to single frame dicom. I found software of "dicom2" stated that it could perform the conversion but their manual guide are too hard for me to understand. May I know there are any easier method to perform the conversion? Thank you. 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