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Maybe for post-processing in case you have multi frames, you can merge all of 
them (multi-echo MPRages) and then take the RMS to get one 3D volume.
Ahmed



Ahmed A. Bahrani, Ph.D.,
Sanders-Brown Center on Aging
University of Kentucky



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But do you know why it has multiple frames? We collect multi-echo T1 MPRAGEs 
that will have multiple frames. We then reduce it to one frame by computing the 
RMS across frames (actually the scanner can output a separate RMS series). 
Check to see whether you got an RMS series in their. If not, check with whoever 
collected the data to find out why it has multiple frames.

On 8/2/2021 4:08 PM, Frank Chau wrote:

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Dear Bruce,


I have briefly read a article about multiple frames DICOM. As my understanding, 
it can reduce the amount of data repetition and decreases the time required to 
read and parse DICOM studies.


Yes, I want to use T1-weighted series as input. I have converted a DICOM 
series, which the name of the series is "SAG T1 MPRAGE (INC UPPERCX AS MUCH)",  
to Nifti format. When I input the Nifti T1 file. The multiple frames error 
occurred.


Below are log record:

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PFCs-MacBook-Pro:T1 PFC$ recon-all -all -i  101.nii -s  101

Subject Stamp: freesurfer-Darwin-OSX-stable-pub-v6.0.0-2beb96c

Current Stamp: freesurfer-Darwin-OSX-stable-pub-v6.0.0-2beb96c

INFO: SUBJECTS_DIR is /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1

Actual FREESURFER_HOME /Applications/freesurfer

Darwin PFCs-MacBook-Pro.local 18.7.0 Darwin Kernel Version 18.7.0: Mon May  3 
20:41:19 PDT 2021; root:xnu-4903.278.68~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64

/Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101

\n mri_convert /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101.nii 
/Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101/mri/orig/001.mgz \n

mri_convert.bin /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101.nii 
/Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101/mri/orig/001.mgz

 $Id: mri_convert.c,v 1.226 2016/02/26 16:15:24 mreuter Exp $

reading from /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101.nii...

TR=7.24, TE=0.00, TI=0.00, flip angle=0.00

i_ras = (0.135649, -0.98975, -0.0446586)

j_ras = (0.0870012, -0.0330015, 0.995661)

k_ras = (0.98693, 0.138946, -0.0816328)

writing to /Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101/mri/orig/001.mgz...

#--------------------------------------------

#@# MotionCor Sat Jul 31 18:01:46 HKT 2021

Found 1 runs

/Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101/mri/orig/001.mgz

Checking for (invalid) multi-frame inputs...

ERROR: input(s) cannot have multiple frames!

/Users/PFC/SPM12/T1/101/mri/orig/001.mgz has 2 frames

Darwin PFCs-MacBook-Pro.local 18.7.0 Darwin Kernel Version 18.7.0: Mon May  3 
20:41:19 PDT 2021; root:xnu-4903.278.68~1/RELEASE_X86_64 x86_64



recon-all -s 101 exited with ERRORS at Sat Jul 31 18:01:48 HKT 2021



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Regards


Frank

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Hi Frank



Do you know why there are multiple frames? What kind of MRI acquisition are you 
trying to use as input? Most standard T1-weighted series only have a single 
frame
Bruce



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Dear Freesurfer experts,



I tried to run Recon-all on a T1 series .nii file. A error occurred:  "ERROR: 
input(s) cannot have multiple frames!". I tried to google the method of 
converting multi frame dicom to single frame dicom. I found software of  
"dicom2" stated that it could perform the conversion but their manual guide are 
too hard for me to understand. May I know there are any easier method to 
perform the conversion? Thank you.



Regards



Frank

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