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dear all

even though on the official webpage it is advised to use freeview to display 
statistical maps because tksurfer is considered obsolete/not maintained in 
freesurfer 7, I am unable to reproduce the same figures, even when using 
tksurferfv.

one feature that is missing but can be reproduced using mri_fdr is FDR 
thresholding. however, it is not clear to me how to produce a decent color 
scale given a threshold computed by mri_fdr or any other means, which indicates 
the threshold.

could someone please suggest how to edit the color scale in freeview? or 
whether there is an alternative software to display the overlays/statistical 
maps produced by freesurfer?

thank you very much in advance!

fabio


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<freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> im Auftrag von Bernardoni, Fabio 
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Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Mai 2021 17:35:25
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Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] how to visualize statistical maps in FS7.1?

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Ok I found a solution using separately mri_fdr

thanks anyway!

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Von: Bernardoni, Fabio
Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Mai 2021 17:28:18
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Betreff: AW: [Freesurfer] how to visualize statistical maps in FS7.1?

Dear Greve,

thanks for your reply.
These are my steps (I corrected the second):

1) I open the inflated surface:

tksurferfv fsaverage lh inflated

(this successfully displays the inflated left hemisphere of the average subject)

2) I now load the overlay from the freeview window (sig.mgh from a mri_glmfit)

(this successfully overlays the -log(p) statistical map)

3) I would like to threshold the map using FDR<.05. This was possible in 
tksurfer:
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however no such option appears in tksurferfv / freeview

Any hint at this point?

Thanks a lot

Fabio


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Betreff: Re: [Freesurfer] how to visualize statistical maps in FS7.1?

your tksurferfv command line is wrong

On 5/12/2021 6:06 AM, Bernardoni, Fabio wrote:
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> Dear Freesurfers
>
> I recently moved to FS7.1 and I was trying to reproduce my workflow I had 
> with FS5.3.
>
> To visualize statistical maps, I had always used tksurfer. It seems, however, 
> it is no longer maintained.
>
> When I launch it it fails to find out the tix, tcl, etc libraries. Following 
> this thread:
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>
> I tried to use tksurferfv.  However, when trying to overlay the sig.mgh 
> output of mriglmfit, on an inflated fsaverage surface, the program shuts 
> down, with this error:
>
> freeview -f 
> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/fsaverage/surf/lh.inflated:curvature=/usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/fsaverage/surf/lh.curv
>  -viewport 3d
> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'int'
> Abort (core dumped)
>
>
>
>
>
> What would you suggest to visualize statistical maps in FS7? Is my problem 
> expected?
>
> Thank you in advance for your attention
>
> Fabio
>
>
> Dr. Fabio Bernardoni
> wiss. Mitarbeiter
>
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