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Hi Bruce,

Thank you very much! Apologies for my simple questions but just to clarify:

In Freeview, where do I select to show the p-vals instead of the binary level?
Also, how would the entire command be listed with the required flags? Would it 
be something along the lines of

mris_spherical_average -prior <iterations> -o fsaverage <which> <fname> <hemi> 
<spherical surf> <subjects…> outputname

Best,
Kristi


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Hi Kristi

You can change the display in freeview to show the p-vals instead of just the 
binary label. Actually you can blur and write the output in 
mris_spherical_average (undocumented) with:

mris_spherical_average -prior <# of iterative averages> <file name to write 
blurred pattern to>

cheers
Bruce

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Hi Bruce,

In that case, how would I tell the command “mris_spherical_average” to blur the 
output? Also, how can I display the probability values in a colour scale?

Thank you very much!

Best,
Kristi

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Hi Kristi

I don’t think it does any blurring unless you tell it to. The output should 
reflect the actual alignment of those labels

Cheers
Bruce

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Hi again!

On second thought, we are wondering if this averaged .label file was already 
blurred during the mris_spherical_average command. If this is the case, do you 
know what smoothing has been done and by how much? We are interested in seeing 
the probability of each vertex after the average of the labels.

Thank you as always for all of your help!!

Best,
Kristi

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Subject: blurring average label files

Hello Freesurfer group,

I am using the command ‘mris_spherical_average’ to map and average a series of 
label files onto fsaverage (I have created the label files manually by drawing 
directly on subject surfaces in FreeView). This has allowed me to create a 
surface probability map, where each vertex on the FreeSurfer fsaverage surface 
is represented from 0% to 100% as belonging to my sulcus of interest (see 
screenshot ‘.label’).

I would like to blur the data and load this blurred average as an overlay onto 
the fsaverage pial. However, when I run ‘mri_label2vol’ followed by 
‘mris_fwhm’, I lose the probability map and the average label is turned into 
one large label (see screenshot ‘overlay’, where most of the map has 99% 
overlap).

Would there be a way to blur this averaged label (obtained from 
mris_spherical_average) with a similar command to ‘mris_fwhm’ but for label 
files?

Let me know if you have any questions regarding the procedure. Very much 
looking forward to your response and thank you for all your time!

Best,
Kristi



Kristi Drudik
Montreal Neurological Institute
McGill University
Montreal, Canada

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