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Awesome, thanks Doug. That's pretty helpful. I should also use the orig.mgz 
with tkregister2 instead of rawavg.mgz if the aim is to get surface maps in 
native space, am I right ? And by native space I mean the subjects' native 
brain structure and not necessarily the native xyz coordinates (I guess 
conformed space is the right term for this, but I am not sure).

Best,
Ozzy

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Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Volume timeseries to native and fsaverage



On 5/11/2020 5:53 PM, özenç taskin wrote:

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Hello Freesurfer developers,

I am trying to map a 4D volumetric EPI image between different surfaces and I'd 
like a little bit of guidance as I am slightly confused about some of the 
outputs of freesurfer.

I have a preprocessed nifti EPI image in subject's anatomical space. First, I'd 
like to map this timeseries image to subject's native surface. Here is how I am 
currently doing this operation:

1 - Create a register.dat by using fsl identity matrix since I am already in 
the native space:
tkregister2_cmdl --mov <epi> --fsl <ident.mat> --targ <rawavg.nii> --noedit 
--reg <register.dat>
This is ok, but unnecessary. You can use --regheader subject in mri_vol2surf 
below instead of --reg
2 - Then, using this register.dat to make surfaces from the 4D timeseries with:
mri_vol2surf --mov <epi> --ref <anat> --reg <register.dat> --hemi lh --o 
<output_surface.mgz>
Add --projfrac 0.5 to sample in the middle of the ribbon.
I used these functions in the past to map statistical images to surface, but it 
might not be the right thing to do for timeseries in which case please let me 
know. Assuming this is correct though, next I want to move this native surface 
timeseries to fsaverage surface. I am pretty sure the calculations are in 
there, but I am not really sure which ones I need to use and with which 
freesurfer commands I can do this.
Time series are no different than a single frame. You can actually map directly 
to fsaverage in mri_vol2surf with --trgsubject fsaverage (or you can take the 
vol2surf output and run mri_surf2surf on it)

Lastly, I came across this freesurfer page 
https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsAnat-to-NativeAnat which talks 
about fsaverage to native surface conversion and the examples there made me a 
bit confused. Aren't the surface files in the surf directory (e.g lh.pial, 
lh.inflated) already in the native space ? Do I need to create a lh.pial.native 
using these commands to overlay my timeseries image ?
No, you do not. That page just talks about if you want an actual surface file 
with xyz in the native coordinates. You do not need to have this file.

Best,
Ozzy






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