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Thanks Tim,

Then if i would resample my data to fsaverage and surfaces are of main 
importance to my work, what should i use for -meas ?

Reza

> On 17 Jul 2019, at 09:39, Tim Schäfer <ts...@rcmd.org> wrote:
> 
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> 
> I guess '-meas' expects a measure (like 'thickness' or 'area'), not a surface 
> (like 'white').
> 
> Best,
> 
> Tim
> 
>> On July 17, 2019 at 9:03 AM Reza Rahmanzadeh <reza.rahmanza...@unibas.ch> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>        External Email - Use Caution        
>> 
>> I removed the back slash and the command line i executed is:
>> 
>> 
>> mris_preproc --target fsaverage --hemi lh --s FSP010 --out 
>> lh.FSP10.white.mgh --meas white
>> 
>> 
>> but i got the error:
>> 
>> Reading curvature file /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010/surf/lh.white
>> MRISreadBinaryCurvature: incompatible vertex number in file 
>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010/surf/lh.white
>> ERROR: reading curvature file
>> 
>> I have added --srcfmt mgh as the last argument, but again i got the error:
>> Reading source surface reg 
>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010/surf/lh.sphere.reg
>> Loading source data
>> No such file or directory
>> ERROR: could not read /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010/surf/lh.white as 
>> type 3
>> 
>> 
>> What is wrong with my mris_prepoc command line?
>> 
>> Reza
>> 
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2019 10:01:15 PM
>> To: Reza Rahmanzadeh; Freesurfer support list; gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>> Subject: Re: need for help
>> 
>> don't include the back slash (ie, fsaverage not fsaverage/ same for FSP010)
>> 
>>> On 7/16/19 3:07 PM, Reza Rahmanzadeh wrote:
>>> 
>>>        External Email - Use Caution
>>> 
>>> Thanks a lot Doug,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I started to proceed with FS group analysis wiki you sent to me.
>>> Accordingly, i have to resample all my data (output of recon-all for a
>>> given subject for example) into fsaverage using mris_preproc. My
>>> commandline for a subject was:
>>> 
>>> mris_preproc --target fsaverage/ --hemi lh --s FSP010/ --out
>>> lh.FSP10.white.mgh --meas white
>>> 
>>> 
>>> and i got the error:
>>> 
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Reading source surface reg
>>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010//surf/lh.fsaverage/.sphere.reg
>>> No such file or directory
>>> mri_surf2surf: could not read surface
>>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010//surf/lh.fsaverage/.sphere.reg
>>> No such file or directory*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> As there was no**lh.fsaverage/.sphere.reg* *folder, i found one file
>>> in fsaverage/surf: lh.fsaverage_sym.sphere.reg. i created a folder
>>> with the name lh.fsaverage and i copied/pasted the mentiomed file into
>>> this folder and i changed the file name to: ./sphere.reg. I got the
>>> error:
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *Reading curvature file
>>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010//surf/lh.sphere
>>> MRISreadBinaryCurvature: incompatible vertex number in file
>>> /usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP025//surf/lh.sphere*
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> What is the problem with my mris_preproc command-line?
>>> 
>>> Reza
>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> *From:* freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>> <freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> on behalf of Greve, Douglas
>>> N.,Ph.D. <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 7:01:30 PM
>>> *To:* Reza Rahmanzadeh; Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Freesurfer] need for help
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 7/16/19 12:57 PM, Reza Rahmanzadeh wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>        External Email - Use Caution
>>>> 
>>>> (I assume now we are discussing in FS list, if no please let me how
>>>> possible?)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks Doug, now i could see the inflate surface, this means that my
>>>> mri_vol2surf works well. As i would do GLM analysis over inflated
>>>> cortex of patients and controls in Qdec,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 1- should i input my surfaces to Qdec as inflated surface or just
>>>> inputting the output_of_vol2surf.mgz to Qdec?
>>>> 
>>>> if inflated one is the input, then how could i get them? mris_inflate
>>>> gives error.
>>>> 
>>> QDEC is no longer being supported. Use the command line stream
>>> (mri_surf2surf, mri_glmfit, mri_glmfit-sim).
>>> https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/FsTutorial/GroupAnalysis
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2- should i input all patients and controls surfaces in standard
>>>> surface before entering to Qdec?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 3- I would like to resample whole cortex (whole cortical thickness, in
>>>> other words: the average of all projfrac between 0 and 1), is it
>>>> possible? or i am limited to resample one given depth of cortex into
>>>> inflated surface only?
>>>> 
>>> Run mri_vol2surf with --help and look for --projfrac-avg
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> thanks a lot,
>>>> 
>>>> Reza
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> *From:* Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 6:22:56 PM
>>>> *To:* Reza Rahmanzadeh; freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>> *Subject:* Re: need for help
>>>> The command should be something like
>>>> tksurfer mysubject lh inflated -overlay output_of_vol2surf.mgz
>>>> Also, tksurfer is also obsolete (but should work). You should be using
>>>> freeview (or tksurferfv, a freeview front end that takes the same
>>>> command line args as tksurfer)
>>>> Also, please remember to respond to the fs list
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/16/19 12:12 PM, Reza Rahmanzadeh wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>        External Email - Use Caution
>>>>> 
>>>>> I got the mri_vol2surf output with .mgz:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> my tksurfer command:
>>>>> 
>>>>> tksurfer FSP010/ (my subject) lh inflated_MWI.mgz (output of
>>>>> mri_vol2surf was lh.inflated_MWI.mgz)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> and the error i got:
>>>>> 
>>>>> *freadFloat: fread failed**
>>>>> No such file or directory*
>>>>> 
>>>>> To me, opening the surfer in tksurfer is only a way to get sure my
>>>>> vol2surf worked well. the main problem is i got this error for all
>>>>> mris_smooth, mris_inflate, mris_sphere ...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Do you think that means the output of mri_vol2surf is not correct, or
>>>>> otherwise i could proceed with that , even when tksurfer could not
>>>>> open it, for GLM in Qdec?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Reza
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 6:01:15 PM
>>>>> *To:* Reza Rahmanzadeh
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: need for help
>>>>> what is your tksurfer command line? Also, the .w file is somewhat
>>>>> obsolete (it should still work); instead you can use .mgz file (and
>>>>> don't spec --paint)
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/16/2019 11:53 AM, Reza Rahmanzadeh wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>        External Email - Use Caution
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Doug,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I used the one without --inflated also, again the tksurfer could not
>>>>>> open it and i got the same error. Where is the problem with my cmd.?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In addition, i wanted to make the output of mri_vol2surf inflated
>>>>>> using mris_inflate but i got the same error:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *freadFloat: fread failed
>>>>>> No such file or directory*
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *could you let me know what is the problem in registering my mwi
>>>>>> volumes to surface that i getonly such errors.*
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> *Thanks,*
>>>>>> *reza
>>>>>> *
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> *From:* Greve, Douglas N.,Ph.D. <dgr...@mgh.harvard.edu>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 5:37:17 PM
>>>>>> *To:* Reza Rahmanzadeh; Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>> *Cc:* gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: need for help
>>>>>> Don't use --inflated. The inflated surface is not a biological
>>>>>> surface. The default is the white surface, which is the one you want
>>>>>> (--projfrac 0.5 will project it to the middle between the white and
>>>> pial)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 7/16/2019 11:34 AM, Reza Rahmanzadeh wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>        External Email - Use Caution
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dear Freesurfer,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I have a batch of myelin water image (MWI) from patients and
>>>>>>> controls, and trying to have inflated cortex registered on standard
>>>>>>> surface for GLM (Qdec).
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> With the commandlines below i get my inflated surface of MWI map of
>>>>>>> my patients and controls.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 1-using bbregister to put MWI into FS space and to calculate
>>>>>>> register.dat:
>>>>>>> bbregister --s FSP042/ --mov mwf.nii --init-fsl --reg register.dat
>>>>>>> --o mwf_FS --t1
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 2-using mri_vol2surf to extract inflated surface of MWI:
>>>>>>> mri_vol2surf --mov mwf.nii --reg register.dat --projfrac 0.5
>>>>>>> --interp nearest --hemi lh --o lh.inflated_MWI.w --out_type
>>>>>>> paint--inflated (*or*--surf sphere)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> However the tksurfer could not open the inflated surface and the
>>>>>>> error message is:
>>>>>>> *ERROR: MRISread: file 'inflated.lh.mwf.mgh' has 0 vertices!
>>>>>>> Probably trying to use a scalar data file as a surface!*
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I used the commandline below for #2:
>>>>>>> mri_vol2surf --src mwf.nii --srcreg register.dat --hemi lh --o
>>>>>>> mwf-lh.w --out_type paint
>>>>>>> and i got the error:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> *ERROR: MRISread: file
>>>>>>> '/usr/local/freesurfer/subjects/FSP010//surf/lh.mwf-lh.w' has many
>>>>>>> more faces than vertices!**
>>>>>>> Probably trying to use a scalar data file as a surface!*
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> As tksurfer could not open my surfaces with errors above, i think
>>>>>>> perhaps the vol2surf procedure is not done properly. Where is the
>>>>>>> problem? i need to get the inflated cortex and then putting ob
>>>>>>> sphere (using mris_sphere) and the registering to standard surface
>>>>>>> using mris_register for GLM in Qdec, right?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It is two weeks i am struggling with these commands, any helps
>>>>>>> highly appreciated. *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> *
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Reza
>>>>>>> 
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